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Spez (Reddit CEO) just put out an announcement talking about how they'll verify bots vs humans. Get ready for a wave of new users into the Fediverse pretty soon! (www.reddit.com)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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[–] 7 points 7 months ago (9 children)

There is a bot problem but ID checks are invasive, and you can stop the bots with things like Hcaptcha Passive and Turnstile which use POW to waste the CPU cycles of bots and look for signs of things like Selenium and Puppeteer controlling the browser.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Passkeys and hardware attestation are also good as they require a fingerprint or face and bare metal hardware instead of a VM, but Spez also wants to introduce things like the Worldcoin Orb and IDs as well which are too invasive IMO.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (6 children)

    FFS, do you guys just not understand a thing you're reading, or flat out refuse to read anything on Reddit?

    Who says anything about ID checks or HCaptchas?

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Well, it looks like they state three options:

    • Passkeys. This won't work over a medium term, period. It's tantamount to saying that SSH keys prove someone is human. If there's enough interest, they'll just make a software passkey solution that can work. Passkey being "human interactive" is purely a client-side construct.

    • Biometric services. Strictly speaking, not an ID but it's not hard to imagine leveraging capturing biometrics to an ID like scenario.

    • Government IDs. Well that's self explanatory.

    They do state distancing themselves from the ID by trusting a third party service, but 3rd party ID service is still a thing.

    Of course, this seems to be only after someone accuses you of being a bot and Reddit bothering to pay attention. Which may be almost no one.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Precisely. Any of the listed options is better than a captcha. None of the options are perfect, obviously, we're using yesterday's tech to solve a tomorrow's problem, but it's something, and it doesn't immediately mean "privacy online is dead".

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    I'd rather put up with a captcha than do any on those other things, especially if it was temporary. Or maybe they could do something like Anubis

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Why would it be temporary?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    One you prove your not a bot. Hopefully it work that way, but I suppose it may not

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Not sure I understand what you mean.

    Like, you verify the account and then give it away to a bot? My assumption is that the "proof of human" would be a unique identifier, meaning that once you've attached it to an account, you can't use it to verify another.

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