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These outdoor heaters are stupid and a waste of electricity (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/justpost@lemmy.world
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They are in front of the elevators at an outdoor multi story parking garage around my area. That's all I wanted to share, thanks.

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[โ€“] 11 points 7 months ago (6 children)

It's only a waste if you are generating that electricity from non-renewables. If the electric is coming from nuclear or renewable AND there is enough electricity where you are then there's basically no harm. Electric heat is 100% efficient since all the energy is consumed for its intended purpose.

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  • [โ€“] -1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I get what you're saying, but I disagree. If you don't use this heater but send the renewable electricity to the grid instead, somewhere non-renewable energy doesn't have to be used. IMO your argument is the same as the reason energy efficiency leads to more energy consumption. I quickly googled it to make sure I'm not talking out of my ass, and it's called Jevon's paradox.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    So what your saying is that switching to renewable is pointless because we aren't allowed to use the energy for what we want?

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  • [โ€“] -1 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Hm, the efficiency point is a bit moot, you can say the same for coal, oil and gas.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 7 months ago

    You definitely cannot. All of those materials burn and release carbon. Not 100% of the material goes towards energy. Solar for instance produces electricity with no byproduct (excluding the cost to make the panel). There are no byproducts in the generation stage. We then transport the electric which also produces heat.

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