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[–] 5 points 7 months ago (8 children)

It's an energy problem, not a smarts problem.

Imagine the Hiroshima bomb.

How much energy that contains.

Now understand that, just from excess emissions alone, we are adding at least four of those nuclear explosions worth of energy into the atmosphere.

Per second.

That's right, per second.

There is no solving this without technology that would be indistinguishable from magic, so not happening. We had our chance, capitalism won, and those at the top are hoarding and preparing for what's coming next.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    Remember that we have technology that 100 years ago would have been indistinguishable from magic.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

    That's an assumption that math and physics doesn't support.

    There is no infinite well of technology and efficiency for us to draw from.

    That's not to say we can't find things that will help a lot, we should, but they won't save us.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    I made a statement about the past. No assumptions we made.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    You weren't implying by saying that, that we could possibly have the magic technology to save ourselves 100 years from now? Sorry if I misunderstood.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Technology will keep developing in ways we can't predict yet. I think it's unlikely we can save all our even most of humanity, but you never know what will happen. There is already research being done into options for geo engineering and the way things are going they will probably end up being tried. Even though that's already technically possible to most people that would still be like magic.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Respectfully, this is the sort of thinking and arguing that got us into this mess in the first place.

    Even a cursory exploration of climate geoengineering leads to the conclusion that it's impractical and inadequate.

    The world really is dying. It will correct itself. We are just along for the ride now. This year will be the panic year (look at the arctic ice extent right now, look at the average sea temp, look at the average air temp, now realize we're just exiting la nina and heading to el nino this year)

    Sorry if I'm being blunt, but there really is no way to save ourselves other than using way less energy, and that's not going to happen at this point.

    Good luck out there! Live for today!

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    They said your statement was incorrect; either there’s a way to salvage the planet in a habitable form, or there isn’t — but “indistinguishable from magic” doesn’t come into it.

    Personally, I think energy is only a portion of the problem space; we need to slow climate change enough that humanity can continue to adapt with it.

    After all, we survived multiple ice ages; will the climate destroy our technological advances, or will those advances enable us to adapt to a changing world?

    The world is likely highly overpopulated at the present, but we can lose a significant chunk of humanity and still preserve the body of knowledge and many of the technologies that we currently enjoy.

    Collapses are inevitable, but total collapse is still avoidable.

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