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I'm OK being left behind, thanks! (shkspr.mobi)
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[–] 66 points 7 months ago (24 children)

For every HTML 2.0 you might have tried, you were just as likely to have got stuck in the dead-end of Flash.

This one hurt. I had a decade plus old piece of tech debt from when they fucking killed flash before I could move on to new projects.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I sympathize with the point of the article, but if someone's seriously citing Flash, which had widespread success for a run of about 15 years before being overtaken by later developments (driven in part by a billionaire with an axe to grind), as a short-lived "dead end" that was best avoided, then how long do they think is a sensible amount of time to wait to see if something's worth spending time and effort? Nothing remains on top forever.

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  • [–] 23 points 7 months ago (21 children)

    Flash had its use. I think a better analogy for me is web frameworks.

    I remember in the mid 2000s there seems to be a new one every week. “LOL, you aren’t using Ruby On Rails? Peasant!” “LOL, you aren’t using Django? Peasant!”

    Still seems to be the case with Electron, React, Node, blah blah blah.

    Running to stand still.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (13 children)

    “LOL, you aren’t using Django? Peasant!”

    ... I'm working on learning Django to get a job... should I stop? What should I use instead?

    My webserver I've had for a while supports basically that.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (9 children)

    I’m the wrong person to ask. My goto language is older than I am and hasn’t had a meaningful change since I was born.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    cobol? fortran? c? assembly? so many options

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    C.

    I exaggerate a bit. C99 lets you declare variables anywhere inside the block, not just the top.

    Which still got me into an argument with a coworker who wanted me to declare every variable at the top of the block “in case” we port the code to a compiler that doesn’t support it.

    C99 was 20 years old at that point.

    Newer versions of C have generics “support” but I haven’t seen it in the wild yet.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Fortran has a 2018 release. Assembly is tied to the cpu, so I assume it changes every iteration.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    I just consider it's origin to be ancient...

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    ... I'm working on learning Django to get a job... should I stop? What should I use instead?

    As the other comment said, Django isn't going anywhere. I'd not start a new project in it, but it'll be with us for a long time.

    For a more modern (and better) python stack, but which is also definitely here to stay, I'd look at FastAPI with sqlalchemy.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (6 children)

    I feel like the web framework question has stabilized in recent years. React and node (not a web framework but in a similar boat) are stable and common, and angular and a few others are good alternatives.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    I hear they’re changing the language these things run on from JavaScript to TypeScript.

    No thanks to the hamster wheel.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    I mean, Typescript just compiles down to JavaScript. I'm also generally anti a million frameworks, but JavaScript to TypeScript is easy

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Isn't it also like opt in? If you don't annotate a type it just defaults to Any, which is just unchecked like standard JS

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