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Chinese firm BYD says it will build 2,000 5-minute fast charger stations across Europe in 2026; at 1.5MW each, they will be 5 times more powerful than most existing chargers. (www.techradar.com)
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"In China, BYD is currently building 4,000 1.5MW charging stations across the country, with plans to roll out 20,000 by the end of this year.

Although not quite as ambitious, a BYD spokesperson for the European side of the business told me that the company is targeting 2,000 1.5mW Flash Charging stations across Europe before 2026 comes to a close."

I'm fascinated by the economics of this. How does BYD make money on this? Do they run the chargers at a profit? How much will this work out per km for drivers compared to diesel or gasoline?

People think of BYD as a budget car marker, but this to support its luxury brand Denza. The Denza Z9 GT EV has a range of 1,036 km (644 miles) on these chargers. I'm guessing having the best charagers is going to be seen as premium/luxury too.

'Ready in 5, full in 9' — this Chinese EV charges to 70% in only 5 minutes, has a 644-mile range, and it's coming to Europe in April

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[–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I want to believe BYD. But my Civic is 20 years old and still idles like a purring cat. I would like 1 year/£1k spent and I don't have faith im getting that in a BYD. 20k for a Dolphin Surf is a minimum 20 year car, and I just don't see it.

Granted my Civic wasnt bought new, it was brought for £1300 a year ago and I could probably get another 100k miles out of it. Im almost certain that the new market is outside £1k/year budget, bunch of old Leafs around though.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, other than "used cars are cheaper than new cars, and I won't buy a new car until that changes".

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Sure. My point is that I don't believe BYD makes cars that will last as long as I would want them to last.

    I want to believe BYD. But my Civic is 20 years old and still idles like a purring cat. I would like 1 year/£1k spent and I don't have faith im getting that in a BYD. 20k for a Dolphin Surf is a minimum 20 year car, and I just don't see it.

    Dolphin Surf is 20k, for me I would like it to last 20 years. My current car has already survived 20 years, so I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation. I don't believe the dolphin surf will last 20 years.

    I could have been more clear.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    That's fair.

    They do seem a bit more on the discount side, quality wise. But then again, lots of the usual discount cars, also don't make it much past 10-15 years. My Nissan Micra is 11 years, and there is no way it'll still be driving in 9 years, might not even survive the next 2.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    £1k/1y is both an easy and challenging target to hit. It's really easy to hit at the bottom end, bouncing from £500 lemon to the next. Occasionally finding a gem that'll last a few years.

    Nearly impossible to hit on a new car though I think. 20 years for 20k I don't think is findable beyond winning the lottery on a well made car, from a well designed model, from a reliability focused manufacturer, and giving it an easy life.

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