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[–] 6 points 8 months ago (31 children)

I don't mistreat animals. this is libelous.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (28 children)

    paying someone to kill an animal so that you can consume its corpse is how you treat animals nicely, is it?

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    OK, so if negative fucks were a thing, that would be how may fucks in general i give about the actual argument you are having.

    That being said, to me it seems hypocritical to be throwing shade about intentional animal cruelty unless you are somehow posting these replies without using any electronics whatsoever.

    Almost all electronics require materials sourced or processed off the back of rare earth minerals not even mentioning the supply chain and assembly.

    As you said, people are animals too, slavery and workplace mutilation are animal abuse.

    I'm not whattabouting your argument, both things are fucked up and one doesn't cancel out the other and as i said, i'm not supporting either side.

    but the stunning lack of awareness (or acknowledgement) of the hypocrisy of your argument is offensive.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (26 children)

    I've never done that. most people haven't.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (24 children)

    You do it literally every time you purchase a meat product. Meat is made from the dead body of animals. When you buy it, you are retroactively paying for the slaughter of that animal.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (23 children)

    money is still bound by linear time. the animal is already dead, and the person who did it is already paid.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Oh yeah, I'm sure the entire meat industry would continue to produce meat that nobody paid for just so they could let it all rot. If you want to eat meat, go ahead, but stop fucking lying to yourself about what you are responsible for. Every time you eat meat, a living creature suffered and died for it, and you gave someone money to facilitate that. That is the reality and you should accept it. Take responsibility for your choices instead of fleeing responsibility like a coward.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (19 children)

    You buy dead animal, they kill animal to put on shelf because you bought dead animal.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (18 children)

    I'm not responsible for others actions

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (6 children)

    You're cool with people buying lampshades and soapsmade from killed holocaust victims?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)

    what difference at this point would it make?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    This might be shocking for a g*rman to hear but giving money to people perpetrating a holocaust is bad

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    The non-human animal holocaust is ongoing. Would you be buying lampshades from human skin during the holocaust?

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    You know that others will resupply if you buy this thing. If you didn't knew until now that people resupply what you buy, now you know. Making you definitely are responsible from now on.

    Imagine I throw candy at the floor an this kid always picks it up. Then I throw candy at the train tracks and the kid gets ran over. Am I not responsible for the kids actions?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    knowledge, being a justified, true belief, precludes knowing the future. I cannot know what others will do.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (8 children)

    I used "know" in the colloquial sense. Do you think it's unjustified to believe that they will resupply your demand?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    since the future hasn't happened yet, no claim about it can, in the present moment, be true. so you can't know it.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    I did not use the word "know" in the question "Do you think it’s unjustified to believe that they will resupply your demand?". Notably, I asked if it is unjustified to believe so.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)

    You know that others will resupply if you buy this thing

    if you will admit that it is impossible to know this, we can follow whatever tangent you like

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    You claimed it's impossible to know this in the philosophical sense, granted.

    I clarified that my question was posed using "know" in the colloquial sense (i.e. to understand, to take cognition of). The question I originally asked is still unanswered.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    Do you think it’s unjustified to believe that they will resupply your demand?

    people believe all kinds of things with varying levels of justification. i can probably come up with some justification, but that doesn't mean i know it.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    So you think it's unjustified?

    Or do you think it's justified? And therefore you believe that they will kill another animal to resupply the demand that you've contributed to.

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