yea that too, or when a parent realizes too late and starts being a helicopter parent during school hours that doesnt help either. while in the last year in HS, a students MOM came to monitor the son during school hours, and made a snobby comment about our parents not caring, i was thinking bitch you waited too long to save your son from a "college-less" career which he was already set in doing, the time was freshman or before he entered hs.