Olufemiotaiwo.bsky.social: I would love to see orders of magnitude more discussion about what "swing voters" should figure out, deal with, suck up, get a clue about, etc and orders of magnitude less discussion about how protestors should coddle random third party's hallucinations about this section of the electorate. "how could someone fly a Mexican flag at an LA protest? Heavens, what will Steve, a downwardly mobile CPA in Madison Wisconsin make of this affront?" personally if - big if - Steve is paying attention I think he should probably just fucking deal with it?
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Which looks worse? A country blatantly attacking its own citizens flying its own flag? Or a country attacking illegal immigrants flying a flag of a foreign country we’ve kinda’ had a war with in the past?

Those people are legal nonresidents you dipshit. They are protesting against the deportation of legally present foreign nationals. That's the entire fucking point of the protest. What you're calling 'bad-optics' is just flat out racist jingoism. There's nothing wrong or illegal about flying another country's flag, except through the racist logic of mass deportation. There isn't anything wrong with protesting as a legal non-resident against your own targeted deportation.

Libs are afraid of Trump taking power under the delusion of some foreign invasion, and their genius strategy to stop him is to hide away anyone who gives latin-american vibes? Put away all the cultural and national symbolism so that we can say 'look, there's no invasion, there aren't any latin-american immigrants here'? This is like people advocating for trans rights by arguing that it's extremely rare to be trans. Ok, yea maybe that's true, but it's not a problem to be trans anyway, why does it matter at all if there are a lot of them or not? And if someone was running around scaremongering about marxists transing the youth, wouldn't it then suddenly be a problem for libs if trans people were loudly and proudly displaying their identities?

Jesus christ, we are so fucking cooked. If this many liberals are totally bought in to this 'bad protest optics' shit, they will 100% be collaborating with the fascists.

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    You don't combat racism by whitewashing your protests.

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    You're saying protestors shouldn't use Mexican symbols in their protest because it will be used as reactionary fodder for fascists. That's the definition of whitewashing.

    to alter (something) in a way that favors, features, or caters to white people

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    Which looks worse? A country blatantly attacking its own citizens flying its own flag? Or a country attacking illegal immigrants flying a flag of a foreign country we’ve kinda’ had a war with in the past?

    My point is that the protestors are there specifically to protest against the forced deportation of legally present non residents under racist, jingoist pretexts. Those people aren't illegal, but they're being deported because of their foreign status (particularly mexican and hispanic foreign nations). Flying the mexican flag (especially next to american national symbols) is meant to assert their right to be here, and that the community of LA stands with them for their right.

    You're suggesting that they instead waive american flags so that it looks like trump is abusing US citizens with the National Guard, when the whole point of the protest was to resist the forceful deportation of immigrants. If they were to 'make it look like they're US citizens' then that would defeat the purpose of that demonstration.

    Liberals (idgaf if that's you or not) want to make this about Trump's militarized crackdown on protests because that's what materially affects them, ignoring the reason we're in the streets protesting in the first place.

    Please, PLEASE stop being a reactionary and understand how messaging and subtext works.

    lmao, that's not what reactionary means. Just fuck off already.

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