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[โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 15 points 9 months ago (9 children) Why Trump? American mind virus is invading our country permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [โ] Unquote0270@programming.dev 13 points 9 months ago (8 children) From the unfortunate conversations I've had with a friend who leans in these directions, they see him as sticking it to establishment and willing to express attitudes they felt ashamed to express previously. Plus they are just dumb as fuck and Trump's utter nonsense takes on politics which conveniently leaves out complexity appeals to them -- things like "the economy isn't doing very well and the reason is immigrants" makes it simple for their underdeveloped reasoning skills. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago (4 children) Gross. The economy and immigration are generally unrelated issues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago (3 children) Well that's just not true, immigration is great for the economy in terms of GDP because more workers make numbers go up and bad for "the economy" in terms of deflating local wages. It's a complicated balance but they're certainly not unrelated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) I think the housing crisis or cost of living crisis is mostly unrelated to bad immigration regulation, but that's still a small factor. Immigration when done correctly is great, of course you have to consider ensuring local people are employed first and you are filling in needed gaps or creating more business and employment in general permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) The population increase over the last 26 years has almost exclusively been from people having kids. Immigration accounts for less than 5% over that period. So yeah the housing crisis has literally nothing to do with immigrants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 9 months ago That's dishonest, you're framing it like breeding is the problem. The problem is that not enough houses are being built. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) You need different friends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Unquote0270@programming.dev 1 point 9 months ago I know, sad to see him head in that direction over the many years. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is actually simple though, the economy isn't doing well and the reason is the super rich. We could drill down and refine that, but the rich being the problem is not an incorrect statement by any means, and just as easy to understand. Point being, we know people are stupid, and the president is the only one that looks like he's fighting. That calls out villains and promises to do something about it. Either we get someone to do that for real, or we will get fake populists scapegoating others, and likely trying to take absolute power and kill democracy, such as it remains. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Unquote0270@programming.dev 13 points 9 months ago (8 children) From the unfortunate conversations I've had with a friend who leans in these directions, they see him as sticking it to establishment and willing to express attitudes they felt ashamed to express previously. Plus they are just dumb as fuck and Trump's utter nonsense takes on politics which conveniently leaves out complexity appeals to them -- things like "the economy isn't doing very well and the reason is immigrants" makes it simple for their underdeveloped reasoning skills. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago (4 children) Gross. The economy and immigration are generally unrelated issues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago (3 children) Well that's just not true, immigration is great for the economy in terms of GDP because more workers make numbers go up and bad for "the economy" in terms of deflating local wages. It's a complicated balance but they're certainly not unrelated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) I think the housing crisis or cost of living crisis is mostly unrelated to bad immigration regulation, but that's still a small factor. Immigration when done correctly is great, of course you have to consider ensuring local people are employed first and you are filling in needed gaps or creating more business and employment in general permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) The population increase over the last 26 years has almost exclusively been from people having kids. Immigration accounts for less than 5% over that period. So yeah the housing crisis has literally nothing to do with immigrants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 9 months ago That's dishonest, you're framing it like breeding is the problem. The problem is that not enough houses are being built. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) You need different friends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Unquote0270@programming.dev 1 point 9 months ago I know, sad to see him head in that direction over the many years. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is actually simple though, the economy isn't doing well and the reason is the super rich. We could drill down and refine that, but the rich being the problem is not an incorrect statement by any means, and just as easy to understand. Point being, we know people are stupid, and the president is the only one that looks like he's fighting. That calls out villains and promises to do something about it. Either we get someone to do that for real, or we will get fake populists scapegoating others, and likely trying to take absolute power and kill democracy, such as it remains. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago (4 children) Gross. The economy and immigration are generally unrelated issues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago (3 children) Well that's just not true, immigration is great for the economy in terms of GDP because more workers make numbers go up and bad for "the economy" in terms of deflating local wages. It's a complicated balance but they're certainly not unrelated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) I think the housing crisis or cost of living crisis is mostly unrelated to bad immigration regulation, but that's still a small factor. Immigration when done correctly is great, of course you have to consider ensuring local people are employed first and you are filling in needed gaps or creating more business and employment in general permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) The population increase over the last 26 years has almost exclusively been from people having kids. Immigration accounts for less than 5% over that period. So yeah the housing crisis has literally nothing to do with immigrants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 9 months ago That's dishonest, you're framing it like breeding is the problem. The problem is that not enough houses are being built. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago (3 children) Well that's just not true, immigration is great for the economy in terms of GDP because more workers make numbers go up and bad for "the economy" in terms of deflating local wages. It's a complicated balance but they're certainly not unrelated. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) I think the housing crisis or cost of living crisis is mostly unrelated to bad immigration regulation, but that's still a small factor. Immigration when done correctly is great, of course you have to consider ensuring local people are employed first and you are filling in needed gaps or creating more business and employment in general permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) The population increase over the last 26 years has almost exclusively been from people having kids. Immigration accounts for less than 5% over that period. So yeah the housing crisis has literally nothing to do with immigrants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 9 months ago That's dishonest, you're framing it like breeding is the problem. The problem is that not enough houses are being built. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) I think the housing crisis or cost of living crisis is mostly unrelated to bad immigration regulation, but that's still a small factor. Immigration when done correctly is great, of course you have to consider ensuring local people are employed first and you are filling in needed gaps or creating more business and employment in general permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) The population increase over the last 26 years has almost exclusively been from people having kids. Immigration accounts for less than 5% over that period. So yeah the housing crisis has literally nothing to do with immigrants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 9 months ago That's dishonest, you're framing it like breeding is the problem. The problem is that not enough houses are being built. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] echodot@feddit.uk 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) The population increase over the last 26 years has almost exclusively been from people having kids. Immigration accounts for less than 5% over that period. So yeah the housing crisis has literally nothing to do with immigrants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 9 months ago That's dishonest, you're framing it like breeding is the problem. The problem is that not enough houses are being built. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 9 months ago That's dishonest, you're framing it like breeding is the problem. The problem is that not enough houses are being built. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) You need different friends. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [โ] Unquote0270@programming.dev 1 point 9 months ago I know, sad to see him head in that direction over the many years. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Unquote0270@programming.dev 1 point 9 months ago I know, sad to see him head in that direction over the many years. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is actually simple though, the economy isn't doing well and the reason is the super rich. We could drill down and refine that, but the rich being the problem is not an incorrect statement by any means, and just as easy to understand. Point being, we know people are stupid, and the president is the only one that looks like he's fighting. That calls out villains and promises to do something about it. Either we get someone to do that for real, or we will get fake populists scapegoating others, and likely trying to take absolute power and kill democracy, such as it remains. permalink fedilink source parent