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[+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (4 children) Please define liberalism for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok so based on that you should realise that every political party follows liberal economics. Hell even most conservative parties in the west pretend to stand up for liberal rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yes almost every political party believes in the right of private property and market economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Economics is at the base of the political super structure. Edit: I suggest you read this: https://archive.org/details/ComManifesto/page/n3/mode/1up The whole split between liberals and socialists was based entirely on economics. There is a reason why Karl Marx wrote a whole book on economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Lol no I’m describing the difference between socialists and liberals. Socialists of all stripes were anti capitalist and rooted in working class movements and anti capitlism. Marx had the most robust and scientific understanding of the liberal political order. Some edits for clarity and another edit: All socialists understood that they had to burn the liberal order to the ground if they wanted to try gain the type of freedom that they were looking for. Also most anarchists and socialists I have met have never had any problem with what I said about economics being the base of the political super structure what they usually disagree on is strategy and how to organise a society once the liberal order has been abolished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (4 children) Please define liberalism for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok so based on that you should realise that every political party follows liberal economics. Hell even most conservative parties in the west pretend to stand up for liberal rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yes almost every political party believes in the right of private property and market economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Economics is at the base of the political super structure. Edit: I suggest you read this: https://archive.org/details/ComManifesto/page/n3/mode/1up The whole split between liberals and socialists was based entirely on economics. There is a reason why Karl Marx wrote a whole book on economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Lol no I’m describing the difference between socialists and liberals. Socialists of all stripes were anti capitalist and rooted in working class movements and anti capitlism. Marx had the most robust and scientific understanding of the liberal political order. Some edits for clarity and another edit: All socialists understood that they had to burn the liberal order to the ground if they wanted to try gain the type of freedom that they were looking for. Also most anarchists and socialists I have met have never had any problem with what I said about economics being the base of the political super structure what they usually disagree on is strategy and how to organise a society once the liberal order has been abolished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -6 points 1 year ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok so based on that you should realise that every political party follows liberal economics. Hell even most conservative parties in the west pretend to stand up for liberal rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yes almost every political party believes in the right of private property and market economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Economics is at the base of the political super structure. Edit: I suggest you read this: https://archive.org/details/ComManifesto/page/n3/mode/1up The whole split between liberals and socialists was based entirely on economics. There is a reason why Karl Marx wrote a whole book on economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Lol no I’m describing the difference between socialists and liberals. Socialists of all stripes were anti capitalist and rooted in working class movements and anti capitlism. Marx had the most robust and scientific understanding of the liberal political order. Some edits for clarity and another edit: All socialists understood that they had to burn the liberal order to the ground if they wanted to try gain the type of freedom that they were looking for. Also most anarchists and socialists I have met have never had any problem with what I said about economics being the base of the political super structure what they usually disagree on is strategy and how to organise a society once the liberal order has been abolished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children) Ok so based on that you should realise that every political party follows liberal economics. Hell even most conservative parties in the west pretend to stand up for liberal rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yes almost every political party believes in the right of private property and market economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Economics is at the base of the political super structure. Edit: I suggest you read this: https://archive.org/details/ComManifesto/page/n3/mode/1up The whole split between liberals and socialists was based entirely on economics. There is a reason why Karl Marx wrote a whole book on economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Lol no I’m describing the difference between socialists and liberals. Socialists of all stripes were anti capitalist and rooted in working class movements and anti capitlism. Marx had the most robust and scientific understanding of the liberal political order. Some edits for clarity and another edit: All socialists understood that they had to burn the liberal order to the ground if they wanted to try gain the type of freedom that they were looking for. Also most anarchists and socialists I have met have never had any problem with what I said about economics being the base of the political super structure what they usually disagree on is strategy and how to organise a society once the liberal order has been abolished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yes almost every political party believes in the right of private property and market economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Economics is at the base of the political super structure. Edit: I suggest you read this: https://archive.org/details/ComManifesto/page/n3/mode/1up The whole split between liberals and socialists was based entirely on economics. There is a reason why Karl Marx wrote a whole book on economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Lol no I’m describing the difference between socialists and liberals. Socialists of all stripes were anti capitalist and rooted in working class movements and anti capitlism. Marx had the most robust and scientific understanding of the liberal political order. Some edits for clarity and another edit: All socialists understood that they had to burn the liberal order to the ground if they wanted to try gain the type of freedom that they were looking for. Also most anarchists and socialists I have met have never had any problem with what I said about economics being the base of the political super structure what they usually disagree on is strategy and how to organise a society once the liberal order has been abolished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children) Yes almost every political party believes in the right of private property and market economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Economics is at the base of the political super structure. Edit: I suggest you read this: https://archive.org/details/ComManifesto/page/n3/mode/1up The whole split between liberals and socialists was based entirely on economics. There is a reason why Karl Marx wrote a whole book on economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Lol no I’m describing the difference between socialists and liberals. Socialists of all stripes were anti capitalist and rooted in working class movements and anti capitlism. Marx had the most robust and scientific understanding of the liberal political order. Some edits for clarity and another edit: All socialists understood that they had to burn the liberal order to the ground if they wanted to try gain the type of freedom that they were looking for. Also most anarchists and socialists I have met have never had any problem with what I said about economics being the base of the political super structure what they usually disagree on is strategy and how to organise a society once the liberal order has been abolished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Economics is at the base of the political super structure. Edit: I suggest you read this: https://archive.org/details/ComManifesto/page/n3/mode/1up The whole split between liberals and socialists was based entirely on economics. There is a reason why Karl Marx wrote a whole book on economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Lol no I’m describing the difference between socialists and liberals. Socialists of all stripes were anti capitalist and rooted in working class movements and anti capitlism. Marx had the most robust and scientific understanding of the liberal political order. Some edits for clarity and another edit: All socialists understood that they had to burn the liberal order to the ground if they wanted to try gain the type of freedom that they were looking for. Also most anarchists and socialists I have met have never had any problem with what I said about economics being the base of the political super structure what they usually disagree on is strategy and how to organise a society once the liberal order has been abolished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Economics is at the base of the political super structure. Edit: I suggest you read this: https://archive.org/details/ComManifesto/page/n3/mode/1up The whole split between liberals and socialists was based entirely on economics. There is a reason why Karl Marx wrote a whole book on economics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Lol no I’m describing the difference between socialists and liberals. Socialists of all stripes were anti capitalist and rooted in working class movements and anti capitlism. Marx had the most robust and scientific understanding of the liberal political order. Some edits for clarity and another edit: All socialists understood that they had to burn the liberal order to the ground if they wanted to try gain the type of freedom that they were looking for. Also most anarchists and socialists I have met have never had any problem with what I said about economics being the base of the political super structure what they usually disagree on is strategy and how to organise a society once the liberal order has been abolished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Lol no I’m describing the difference between socialists and liberals. Socialists of all stripes were anti capitalist and rooted in working class movements and anti capitlism. Marx had the most robust and scientific understanding of the liberal political order. Some edits for clarity and another edit: All socialists understood that they had to burn the liberal order to the ground if they wanted to try gain the type of freedom that they were looking for. Also most anarchists and socialists I have met have never had any problem with what I said about economics being the base of the political super structure what they usually disagree on is strategy and how to organise a society once the liberal order has been abolished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Lol no I’m describing the difference between socialists and liberals. Socialists of all stripes were anti capitalist and rooted in working class movements and anti capitlism. Marx had the most robust and scientific understanding of the liberal political order. Some edits for clarity and another edit: All socialists understood that they had to burn the liberal order to the ground if they wanted to try gain the type of freedom that they were looking for. Also most anarchists and socialists I have met have never had any problem with what I said about economics being the base of the political super structure what they usually disagree on is strategy and how to organise a society once the liberal order has been abolished. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association permalink fedilink source parent