▲ 411 ▼ AI companies will fail. We can salvage something from the wreckage | Cory Doctorow (www.theguardian.com) submitted 9 months ago by HailSeitan@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 54 comments fedilink hide all child comments AI is asbestos in the walls of our tech society, stuffed there by monopolists run amok. A serious fight against it must strike at its roots
[–] the_trash_man@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago (5 children) Hopefully dirt cheap gpus and ram when the bubble bursts permalink fedilink source hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children) Unfortunately most of the GPUs aren't usable by gamers. We aren't talking mining booms where miners buy up gaming GPU stock, then sell cheap when the bubble bursts. We're talking companies buying huge GPUs that don't have video outputs and have an altered software stack to what's used for gaming, missing all kinds of features and game specific patches. Granted, many 4090/5090s were also used, and those will be usable by gamers, but even with a significant price drop on those, only richer gamers will find that to be viable. Somewhat similar story for memory - a lot of it is tied up in HBM, or as GDDR on enterprise graphics cards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] floppybiscuits@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago I would pickup an inference GPU to run models locally. I can see a benefit in that especially if they're on the cheap permalink fedilink source parent [–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* don’t have video outputs and have an altered software stack to what’s used for gaming, missing all kinds of features and game specific patches. True about those without video outputs. But in Linux, game specific patches are in Mesa and not in the graphics drivers for example. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damage@feddit.it 1 point 9 months ago And their energy usage must be outrageous permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children) Unfortunately most of the GPUs aren't usable by gamers. We aren't talking mining booms where miners buy up gaming GPU stock, then sell cheap when the bubble bursts. We're talking companies buying huge GPUs that don't have video outputs and have an altered software stack to what's used for gaming, missing all kinds of features and game specific patches. Granted, many 4090/5090s were also used, and those will be usable by gamers, but even with a significant price drop on those, only richer gamers will find that to be viable. Somewhat similar story for memory - a lot of it is tied up in HBM, or as GDDR on enterprise graphics cards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] floppybiscuits@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago I would pickup an inference GPU to run models locally. I can see a benefit in that especially if they're on the cheap permalink fedilink source parent [–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* don’t have video outputs and have an altered software stack to what’s used for gaming, missing all kinds of features and game specific patches. True about those without video outputs. But in Linux, game specific patches are in Mesa and not in the graphics drivers for example. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Damage@feddit.it 1 point 9 months ago And their energy usage must be outrageous permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] floppybiscuits@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago I would pickup an inference GPU to run models locally. I can see a benefit in that especially if they're on the cheap permalink fedilink source parent
[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* don’t have video outputs and have an altered software stack to what’s used for gaming, missing all kinds of features and game specific patches. True about those without video outputs. But in Linux, game specific patches are in Mesa and not in the graphics drivers for example. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 point 9 months ago And their energy usage must be outrageous permalink fedilink source parent