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[+] -13 points 10 months ago (12 children)

The real thing to talk about is the presence or absence of a victim.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Which they then talk about and point out that victims are absolutely present in this case...

    If this is still too hard to understand i will simplify the sentence. They are saying:

    "The important thing to talk about is, whether there is a victim or not."

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    It doesn't matter if there's a victim or not. It's the depiction of CSA that is illegal.

    So no, talking about whatever or not there's a victim is not the most important part.

    It doesn't matter if you draw it by hand with crayons. If it's depicting CSA it's illegal.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Nobody was talking about the "legality". We are talking about morals. And morally there is major difference.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Its good training for arguing with real life people at least. Because coming up with a good comeback quickly is hard when you have never formulated your thoughts about a subject properly. I think often people misunderstand things at first and then when someone points out their mistake, they realize that they were wrong, but dont want to admit it, so they just double down. I have been that person before too tho...

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Talking about morals and morality is how you end up getting things like abortion banned. Because some people felt morally superior and wanted to enforce their superior morality on everyone else.

    There's no point in bringing it up. If you need to bring up morals to argue your point. You've already failed.

    But please do enlighten me. Because personally. I don't think there's a moral difference between depicting "victimless" CSAM and CSAM containing a real person.

    I think they're both, morally, equally awful.

    But you said there's a major moral difference? For you maybe.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (5 children)

    If you seriously think that there is no moral difference between someone being sexually abused and them not being sexually abused then maybe you should be in prison for all our safety.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    That's not what I said. How are you this stupid?

    I said I think they are both, equally morally reprehensible. They both belong in the very bottom of Dante's inferno.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (3 children)

    I don't think there's a moral difference between depicting "victimless" CSAM and CSAM containing a real person. I think they're both, morally, equally awful.

    You called them "morally equally awful", so yes, that is what you said.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yes. They are both the worst of the worst. I place both in the very bottom of Dantes inferno.

    Or do you still struggle to understand what that means?

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