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[–] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

There are theories that hunter-gatherers worked significantly less. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_affluent_society

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

    I'm all for testing 6 hour work days.

    But the fantasy of universal income is too farfetched. Who will produce the food? Are we to collectively agree that we take turns on producing the food? I sure as hell don't want that, and there lies the core issue. How do you force people to do things that they don't want to do?

    Lol, these downvotes. Explain the system instead. How do you propose to force people?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    Why the hell do you immediately think of slavery? You don't force people to do anything. If you need work done, you pay people to do it. Obviously.

    And since workers have a guaranteed income to fall back upon, employers have no choice but to pay a fair wage. That's the entire point.

    Seriously, if you want to understand UBI, there are whole studies available online for your reading pleasure. There are dozens of books on the subject. Your question isn't mysterious or insurmountable, but worse, it's not even insightful. It reveals that you've never given it the slightest consideration or study. Do some work. You were down voted because you're so wildly off-base as to not even be wrong.

    Since you brought it up though, what do you think our current society intends to do with us besides slavery and genocide? And how do you propose to stop it?

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Why the hell do you immediately think of slavery? You don't force people to do anything. If you need work done, you pay people to do it. Obviously.

    So just capitalism then. But with extra steps.

    And since workers have a guaranteed income to fall back upon, employers have no choice but to pay a fair wage. That's the entire point.

    No..? The ones that work to produce would control the supply and the prices would reflect it. Kind of like that other system that starts with c.

    Seriously, if you want to understand UBI, there are whole studies available online for your reading pleasure. There are dozens of books on the subject.

    I've read plenty of articles about it, not sold on it. Was curious if anyone had any way to sell it. You just present it as capitalism, which i suppose is one way to do it. Though I would argue that people would stop doing necessary jobs, since they no longer need to work.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Capitalism is when a small amount of people own the means of production while doing no work and profiting off the labor of many. It isn't when people buy and sell and work for money.

    When you suggest that people must be forced to work, it demonstrates you don't understand it at all.

    UBI simply puts power back where it belongs, in the hands of the workers.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago

    capitalism is when a small amount of people own the means of production.

    Wrong. That would be oligarchy. But i can tell that you are confused since you present UBI as capitalism without even realizing it.

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