▲ 60 ▼ What Have I Learned From Daily Driving Arch Linux For Three Years? (thelibre.news) submitted 10 months ago by chasteinsect@programming.dev to c/linux@programming.dev 40 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 10 months ago (7 children) Rolling release distros are not unstable. permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Dumhuvud@programming.dev 18 points 10 months ago (3 children) The term "stable" is not meant to be used as a synonym for "reliable" when describing distros. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 12 points 10 months ago Exactly. The term "stable" in connection with software has the same problems of "free"; without understanding the context, it can be interpreted wrongly. "stable" type of distributions are meant to be "unchanging" in the sense of feature freeze. That off course depends on the distro or software in general how far this goes. Archlinux is "unstable" in the sense it is ever changing and adapting new technologies by breaking compatibility; something Debian does not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago I know, I was referring to the heading implying otherwise: It turned out to be more stable than I expected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Depends on your definition of "reliable" 😉 permalink fedilink source parent [–] data1701d@startrek.website 8 points 10 months ago As others have said, “stable” and “unstable” have a different connotation in the FOSS world. Rolling releases probably don’t have more software crashes than their stable counterparts, which is what you meant. However, some use cases prefer that they are able to use the same config for a long time, and when software updates frequently, system administration can become a cat-and-mouse game of “What config broke this time?” That’s not to say rolling release is bad, but sometimes it’s like using a power drill instead of a screw driver. Also, I definitely feel like a stable distro is more likely to survive a software update after not using the computer for a few months to a year. Granted, I’ve had a Debian Testing (rolling release) install that did survive an upgrade after a year of non-use, but I’ve also seen Arch VMs that broke after just a couple months of non-use, forcing me to reinstall. permalink fedilink source parent [–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago It depends on the distribution. In example Manjaro was unstable for me, while EndeavourOS is stable for the most part. In fact, Manjaro was holding back packages and is less rolling release than EndeavourOS, and yet less stable (for me). :D permalink fedilink source parent [–] PokerChips@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago Maybe you're right. But arch is stable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dumhuvud@programming.dev 18 points 10 months ago (3 children) The term "stable" is not meant to be used as a synonym for "reliable" when describing distros. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 12 points 10 months ago Exactly. The term "stable" in connection with software has the same problems of "free"; without understanding the context, it can be interpreted wrongly. "stable" type of distributions are meant to be "unchanging" in the sense of feature freeze. That off course depends on the distro or software in general how far this goes. Archlinux is "unstable" in the sense it is ever changing and adapting new technologies by breaking compatibility; something Debian does not. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago I know, I was referring to the heading implying otherwise: It turned out to be more stable than I expected. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Depends on your definition of "reliable" 😉 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 12 points 10 months ago Exactly. The term "stable" in connection with software has the same problems of "free"; without understanding the context, it can be interpreted wrongly. "stable" type of distributions are meant to be "unchanging" in the sense of feature freeze. That off course depends on the distro or software in general how far this goes. Archlinux is "unstable" in the sense it is ever changing and adapting new technologies by breaking compatibility; something Debian does not. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago I know, I was referring to the heading implying otherwise: It turned out to be more stable than I expected. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Depends on your definition of "reliable" 😉 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] data1701d@startrek.website 8 points 10 months ago As others have said, “stable” and “unstable” have a different connotation in the FOSS world. Rolling releases probably don’t have more software crashes than their stable counterparts, which is what you meant. However, some use cases prefer that they are able to use the same config for a long time, and when software updates frequently, system administration can become a cat-and-mouse game of “What config broke this time?” That’s not to say rolling release is bad, but sometimes it’s like using a power drill instead of a screw driver. Also, I definitely feel like a stable distro is more likely to survive a software update after not using the computer for a few months to a year. Granted, I’ve had a Debian Testing (rolling release) install that did survive an upgrade after a year of non-use, but I’ve also seen Arch VMs that broke after just a couple months of non-use, forcing me to reinstall. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 4 points 10 months ago It depends on the distribution. In example Manjaro was unstable for me, while EndeavourOS is stable for the most part. In fact, Manjaro was holding back packages and is less rolling release than EndeavourOS, and yet less stable (for me). :D permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago Maybe you're right. But arch is stable. permalink fedilink source parent