"Food is free until someone built a fence around it" imho means: you didn't pay until the fence came.
Right, it's a claim made on a baseless assumption. People didn't build a fence around some berry shrubs in the mountains. They built a fence around agricultural works, which have never been "free".
The post acknowledges that work is necessary in the second post.
I don't think it really establishes that at all.
"free as in beer" concept. No one who reads "free beer" thinks that the beer just materialized.
I don't think this is as popular of a concept as you appear to think it is?
If we're talking about advertising.... No one actually thinks the beer is free at all.
That wasn't the point. The point was: will my guests in this scenario where I cook (scavenged) food for them think the food is worthless because they didn't pay for it (i.e. it was free)?
My point is that a guest wouldn't really assume it to be inherently free. They would acknowledge that you spent your time and effort to prepare it and do their best to appreciate it and not be wasteful.
Again you are only addressing value as a monetary transaction.
It's not about "refusing". It's about not being part of the society until they arrived and needed food for their travels.
Yes, but are they planning to participate in the society, or just traveling?
There is nothing in socialism that says a society is responsible for providing basic need to tourists.
Since when am I arguing against socialism?
You do realize what instance your on?
Food not being gatekept by exchange of monetary value is something that should be the case in socialism, imho.
It's not about gatekeeping..... It's about providing the basic needs for the most amount of people as possible. Something you can't do without creating a productive society.
Ah, you're bringing up Lenin quotes all of a sudden. That explains the weird arguments you made.
What do you think the .ml stands for?
Let's just say I don't agree with Lenin's view of how "parasitic" humanity behaves.
Lol, it's not that people are parasitic..... We just haven't reached post scarcity yet. Meaning everyone must contribute to the best of their ability.
don't think you need compulsion to make the vast majority of people chip in (once they don't see themselves as rivals in a capitalist ecosystem, that is).
Who said anything about compulsion? We're talking about creating enough resources to provide for everyone in society. If we haven't reached post scarcity, meaning there still isn't enough for everyone to go around. Of course able-bodied people should do their best to help, and if able-bodied people refuse to contribute then of course they should not reap the benefit of other peoples labour before the worker themselves.