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Food is literally free (slrpnk.net)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/antiwork@lemmy.ml
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cross-posted from: https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/onehundredninetysix/p/449273/food-is-literally-rule

Food is literally rule

Edit: Could you please chill it with the taking everything so bloody seriously? It's low-hanging fruit leftist agitprop from c/196. It doesn't aim to be coherent with the very letter of Marx or whatever leftist group/cult-leader you prefer.

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[–] [S] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think the second post explains how their definition of "work" differs from yours.

I think they define "work" as wage-labour.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Maybe, but then if you abolish wage-labour, you just have a different type of work needed to survive. Either you're going off-grid and living all on your own, which would mean you don't have a lot, but you're truly independent - or you're part of a society where you don't get paid a wage, but instead receive certain living conditions similar to everyone else's, and you're expected to work to the best of your ability.

    Yes, working for a wage is unnatural. But then being part of a large society with super specialized roles is unnatural. We've been doing unnatural for thousands of years now.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 11 months ago

    Maybe, but then if you abolish wage-labour, you just have a different type of work needed to survive

    The point is that this kind of work is less alienating.

    Either you're going off-grid and living all on your own, which would mean you don't have a lot, but you're truly independent

    I'm not arguing for that, since it's not a realistic scenario.

    or you're part of a society where you don't get paid a wage, but instead receive certain living conditions similar to everyone else's, and you're expected to work to the best of your ability.

    Cool, where do I sign up?

    Yes, working for a wage is unnatural. But then being part of a large society with super specialized roles is unnatural. We've been doing unnatural for thousands of years now.

    I don't want to succumb to the naturalistic fallacy here. I think it makes people miserable, since it runs counter to our brain structure. I don't think you can say the same thing about large societies (the amount of people you interact with has a natural limit and there's a natural need for humans to be social).

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