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Australia | Teenagers sue over social media ban for ‘violating their right to communicate’ (www.independent.co.uk)
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High Court challenge says law imposing ban is ‘grossly excessive’ and infringes on ‘constitutional right of freedom of political communication’

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[–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You didn’t answer any of my questions.

The very children who are at risk are the ones with the type of families I listed, and other at risk types. If you leave it up to the parents, you’re essentially giving up on kids with “bad” parents.

I’ll ask a different way: if you’re a child and you have parents who don’t understand the issue, or are too busy and/or stressed out to monitor the issue, or if you have friends who provide you with access…do you deserve to be out at risk/fall through the cracks?

If you actually want to solve problems…you work together as a society…you raise children as a village. If you want all the problems associated with social media use and other issues you “leave it to the parents”, which is basically giving up.

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  • [+] -6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Parents who neglect their children have their children removed. There are no excuses for bad parenting, there are plenty of resources to understand what "the internet" is. Seriously?

    This is not a real argument. I've presented alternatives and you've ignored them. You raise strawmen and move goal posts. There are non police state alternatives. You're arguing in bad faith and I will not engage with you further

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    have parents who don’t understand the issue, or are too busy and/or stressed out to monitor the issue, or if you have friends who provide you with access...

    The other commenter isn't making strawman arguments, they made quite clear the complex situations in which a parent may not be in a position to monitor or control their childs use.

    Parents who neglect their children have their children removed

    This is a strawman. It fails to imagine neglect of varied levels. It fails to acknowledge that child removal is the last resort after sustained and/or heavy neglect.

    The alternative, you presented one that i see, is a government solution imposed from on high that is liable to the same 'police state' attacks you make about this legislation, or, will go unenforced and thus be a giant waste of time and energy because all parents, especially those time poor or 'not in the know', ignore the tool.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    You’re just talking past me and not engaging with what I’m saying. All I’m saying is the reality of life for some families is that a kid shouldn’t be put at risk because their single mom (for example) is too busy or doesn’t want to die on the hill of not letting their kid talk to their friends on Discord or whatever.

    Taking her kid away isn’t going to help the kid…or anyone…you’re just going to create more problems.

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