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KDE Plasma sets date to dump X11 as Wayland push accelerates (www.theregister.com)
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The oldest of the open source Linux desktops is planning its final steps away from X11, while an even older Unix desktop is getting freshened up.

The team behind the KDE Plasma desktop announced it is going all-in on a Wayland future. The Plasma version 6.8, "which we expect will be sometime in early 2027," will completely drop X11 support.

You don't need to worry just yet. Plasma 6.5 appeared less than a month ago, and it's currently at version 6.5.3. That means there are the entire 6.6 and 6.7 release sequences to get through, which will probably take most of 2026 and some of 2027.

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[–] 10 points 11 months ago (19 children)

Im not sure about the politics or many of the reasons, but personally, not a fan of wayland. Its nothing crazy, just things don't run as well on my hardware. X11 works in my experience, but honestly I don't know enough to say why.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    We're around the teetering point where X11 still works pretty well especially on older hardware. Like if you're rocking a GTX-1000 series graphics card I'd go Mint Cinnamon with X11, that's probably going to be a better experience than Wayland. There's certain things that X11 permitted that Wayland's security model outlaws, which is a deal breaker for some, but Wayland is the future.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    running GDM on two laptops, same models etc. Wayland glitches out all the time compared to x11.

    • windows flickering in/out of existence
    • random screen flickering
    • random screen artifacts
    • DPI scaling issues
    • screen sharing doesn't work

    x11 just works. like, no problems. I get it, new stuff etc, but Wayland has a long way to go before I switch.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    My first time installing Linux it had a weird issue where whenever I opened a graphical app or game, it would randomly blur the screen, never knew when it would happen it just was inevitable. Swapping to x11 made the problem go away. Still no idea why it happened.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago* (10 children)

    Same for me. I'm still kinda new to Linux so I'm not an expert on the matter, but what I'm reading online is that it doesn't work very well with Nvidia cards, which is what I use.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    This is old news. Nvidia did have issues with wayland at first, but that was quickly fixed. Most of my machines have Nvidia graphics cards, and all of them run Wayland flawlessly. I suggest that you try it on your machine if you want to see how well it works in your case though, mileage may vary.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Alright. This Christmas holiday I'm gonna try to make the switch again. And it's not bad for gaming either?

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    If you don't have a preference, I recommend trying out Bazzite.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    That's an entirely different distro right? I'm finally starting to get things right with Arch so I'm not sure if I'm ready to jump ships quite yet, haha. But thanks for the advice! If Wayland messes with my system too much, I might just jump ships.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Yep, it is. It's an idiot-proof gaming distro. It's preconfigured for gaming and immutable. I believe it's based on Fadora Atomic.

    My daily driver is EndeavourOS and my Girlfriend's PC is Bazzite, and I'm seriously jealous of how many things "just work" on her PC that I have to scrounge through steam forums and Arch Wiki to get working.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah i swapped from win10 to Linux with my 3070 and its been nothing but a headache on wayland.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Some people in this thread are saying this isn't true anymore so I might give it another go over the holidays. One thing I liked about Wayland was that I could have different resolutions for each of my two monitors. Something I can't seem to get working on X11. Wish me luck!

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  • [+] -4 points 11 months ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    This comments section is interesting since thats all I have heard about wayland before, and the comments here seem the opposite.

    Im not sure i have a particular opinion on the outcome of the anti x11 stuff, but outside waydroid, I have no use for wayland personally.

    Still, might try out some other options outside Plasma just to try them.

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