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On X11 and the Fascists Maggots (blogs.gnome.org)
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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

  • Fascists and Nazis
  • Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
  • “Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
  • A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thanks, I was going to post a very similar rant.

The "just works" argument IS a valid one and they would have a point -- IF Gnome's defaults were in any way sensible. They aren't. The entire workflow is a nightmare. (I made the apple comparison -- Well, uhh... MacOS is also a walled garden that doesn't let you change shit, but at least it's got very decent defaults)

Gnome's file manager didn't let you type in FOLDER ADDRESSES until a few months ago, ffs. And sure you could, even then, use an alternative file manager.

.... But at that point you are fucking with the premise of "just works", because you will need to use non-default stuff.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You stay very subjective views as if they are facts. Then you go and add an obvious lie to the whole thing - you could’ve typed directory addresses for years, maybe even since the beginning.

    At this point, your post should be taken with a ton of salt, if at all

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    You're the one lying. Gnome 46. That's when it was added.

    "Location entry on click" and "Detailed timestamps for files" listed proudly as "features" as if they aren't default on every file manager that doesn't treat its users like babies too dumb to use their computers.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    CTRL-l to type the address has been a thing for years. It’s literally the same shortcut as every browser. What you highlighted made it easier for newcomers, which you supposedly aren’t.

    But I guess you just saw this message and got triggered, having not even used the software.

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