▲ 897 ▼ Tesla's European car sales nosedive for fifth month as customers switch to Chinese EVs (www.cnbc.com) submitted 1 year ago by vegeta@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 193 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (14 children) as customers switch to Chinese EVs Sure. That's the reason. permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] killabeezio@lemmy.zip 77 points 1 year ago (12 children) I don't think that's what they meant. I think they are just saying that people are still buying EVs, but they are just going to Chinese and other manufacturers instead of buying a Tesla. The article specifically calls out the stupid shit Elon has been doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 year ago Which is important because about a year ago the headlines were saying EV sales were collapsing. In fact, it was just Tesla having less market share of new EVs sold because other manufacturers got off their ass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Not even sure it's that true though. Afaik BYD is only the 14th most popular car in Denmark, and European brands have risen from around ~28% last year to ~40% this year. Sure, Chinese carmakers have had some growth - but we're talking in the order of something between 2 - 4% of the market. Might be more popular in other countrues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I wonder where you're getting this information. BYD alone is second worldwide if you account for the US market, and 1st if you don't. 59% of all EVs sold in January of this year were Chinese. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago Which owes to how gigantic the Chinese market is. They now have a 5% market share for new cars in Europe - which this article is about. It doesn't matter if they top global sales just because there are so many Chinese buyers permalink fedilink source parent [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -13 points 1 year ago (7 children) Ah. Good to know- I didn't read the article, but that's kind of my point, really. Most people don't, and media outlets know that. The headline is all that "carries". A better headline would include the Nazi stuff AND Chinese EVs. I think they deliberately avoided that and tucked it in the article. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children) The headline to me clearly is stating that people are not buying Teslas and are buying alternative Chinese based EVs instead. I think that anyone that's heard Elon's name over the past 6 months can read between the lines and understand the causation here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) Well - I would hope. But that's not the same as putting it in there is it. "Tesla sales drop as EU consumers choose Chinese brands plus Musk is y'know WINK" I mean, I can see why they didn't go with that one but still. There are plenty of people who don't understand Elmo is an out-and-out nazi, cozy with putin and Peter Thiel and will destroy the country as soon as possible. Not mentioning him and his drugged-out asinine ideas in the headline is a missed opportunity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) The title isn't there to tell the whole story though. It should give a high level summary and then the details are in the article. If you hypothetically put something like what you suggested, it still doesn't give all of the context, and the title would need to be longer to include the history of Musk, his drug use, his position with Tesla, etc, and you can't put that all in the title. I'm all for dunking on that Nazi whenever we can, but I personally don't think that the title of this article deserves any criticism, especially in the age of clickbait titles that don't give anything, this one is decently descriptive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I’ll give you that. I just want more. Elmo’s such a stain that not factoring it directly to Tesla-going-down stories seems like skimping. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RazgrizOne@piefed.zip 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) My comment is about the headline. Yes? I read that. Everyone read that. That's what my comment is referring to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) You could just say, "you're right, I probably should have." Try it sometime, it's nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago "the headline is wrong" Wahhhh you didn't read the article! "that's true. you're right. I probably should have. Where I would then return to the single sentence that I'm referring to and nothing will have changed. Do you even understand what I'm talking about? Because that would be nice." permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] makki@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] killabeezio@lemmy.zip 77 points 1 year ago (12 children) I don't think that's what they meant. I think they are just saying that people are still buying EVs, but they are just going to Chinese and other manufacturers instead of buying a Tesla. The article specifically calls out the stupid shit Elon has been doing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 year ago Which is important because about a year ago the headlines were saying EV sales were collapsing. In fact, it was just Tesla having less market share of new EVs sold because other manufacturers got off their ass. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Not even sure it's that true though. Afaik BYD is only the 14th most popular car in Denmark, and European brands have risen from around ~28% last year to ~40% this year. Sure, Chinese carmakers have had some growth - but we're talking in the order of something between 2 - 4% of the market. Might be more popular in other countrues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I wonder where you're getting this information. BYD alone is second worldwide if you account for the US market, and 1st if you don't. 59% of all EVs sold in January of this year were Chinese. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago Which owes to how gigantic the Chinese market is. They now have a 5% market share for new cars in Europe - which this article is about. It doesn't matter if they top global sales just because there are so many Chinese buyers permalink fedilink source parent [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -13 points 1 year ago (7 children) Ah. Good to know- I didn't read the article, but that's kind of my point, really. Most people don't, and media outlets know that. The headline is all that "carries". A better headline would include the Nazi stuff AND Chinese EVs. I think they deliberately avoided that and tucked it in the article. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children) The headline to me clearly is stating that people are not buying Teslas and are buying alternative Chinese based EVs instead. I think that anyone that's heard Elon's name over the past 6 months can read between the lines and understand the causation here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) Well - I would hope. But that's not the same as putting it in there is it. "Tesla sales drop as EU consumers choose Chinese brands plus Musk is y'know WINK" I mean, I can see why they didn't go with that one but still. There are plenty of people who don't understand Elmo is an out-and-out nazi, cozy with putin and Peter Thiel and will destroy the country as soon as possible. Not mentioning him and his drugged-out asinine ideas in the headline is a missed opportunity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) The title isn't there to tell the whole story though. It should give a high level summary and then the details are in the article. If you hypothetically put something like what you suggested, it still doesn't give all of the context, and the title would need to be longer to include the history of Musk, his drug use, his position with Tesla, etc, and you can't put that all in the title. I'm all for dunking on that Nazi whenever we can, but I personally don't think that the title of this article deserves any criticism, especially in the age of clickbait titles that don't give anything, this one is decently descriptive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I’ll give you that. I just want more. Elmo’s such a stain that not factoring it directly to Tesla-going-down stories seems like skimping. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RazgrizOne@piefed.zip 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) My comment is about the headline. Yes? I read that. Everyone read that. That's what my comment is referring to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) You could just say, "you're right, I probably should have." Try it sometime, it's nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago "the headline is wrong" Wahhhh you didn't read the article! "that's true. you're right. I probably should have. Where I would then return to the single sentence that I'm referring to and nothing will have changed. Do you even understand what I'm talking about? Because that would be nice." permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 year ago Which is important because about a year ago the headlines were saying EV sales were collapsing. In fact, it was just Tesla having less market share of new EVs sold because other manufacturers got off their ass. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 8 points 1 year ago (2 children) Not even sure it's that true though. Afaik BYD is only the 14th most popular car in Denmark, and European brands have risen from around ~28% last year to ~40% this year. Sure, Chinese carmakers have had some growth - but we're talking in the order of something between 2 - 4% of the market. Might be more popular in other countrues permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I wonder where you're getting this information. BYD alone is second worldwide if you account for the US market, and 1st if you don't. 59% of all EVs sold in January of this year were Chinese. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago Which owes to how gigantic the Chinese market is. They now have a 5% market share for new cars in Europe - which this article is about. It doesn't matter if they top global sales just because there are so many Chinese buyers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I wonder where you're getting this information. BYD alone is second worldwide if you account for the US market, and 1st if you don't. 59% of all EVs sold in January of this year were Chinese. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago Which owes to how gigantic the Chinese market is. They now have a 5% market share for new cars in Europe - which this article is about. It doesn't matter if they top global sales just because there are so many Chinese buyers permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago Which owes to how gigantic the Chinese market is. They now have a 5% market share for new cars in Europe - which this article is about. It doesn't matter if they top global sales just because there are so many Chinese buyers permalink fedilink source parent
[+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -13 points 1 year ago (7 children) Ah. Good to know- I didn't read the article, but that's kind of my point, really. Most people don't, and media outlets know that. The headline is all that "carries". A better headline would include the Nazi stuff AND Chinese EVs. I think they deliberately avoided that and tucked it in the article. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children) The headline to me clearly is stating that people are not buying Teslas and are buying alternative Chinese based EVs instead. I think that anyone that's heard Elon's name over the past 6 months can read between the lines and understand the causation here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) Well - I would hope. But that's not the same as putting it in there is it. "Tesla sales drop as EU consumers choose Chinese brands plus Musk is y'know WINK" I mean, I can see why they didn't go with that one but still. There are plenty of people who don't understand Elmo is an out-and-out nazi, cozy with putin and Peter Thiel and will destroy the country as soon as possible. Not mentioning him and his drugged-out asinine ideas in the headline is a missed opportunity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) The title isn't there to tell the whole story though. It should give a high level summary and then the details are in the article. If you hypothetically put something like what you suggested, it still doesn't give all of the context, and the title would need to be longer to include the history of Musk, his drug use, his position with Tesla, etc, and you can't put that all in the title. I'm all for dunking on that Nazi whenever we can, but I personally don't think that the title of this article deserves any criticism, especially in the age of clickbait titles that don't give anything, this one is decently descriptive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I’ll give you that. I just want more. Elmo’s such a stain that not factoring it directly to Tesla-going-down stories seems like skimping. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RazgrizOne@piefed.zip 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) My comment is about the headline. Yes? I read that. Everyone read that. That's what my comment is referring to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) You could just say, "you're right, I probably should have." Try it sometime, it's nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago "the headline is wrong" Wahhhh you didn't read the article! "that's true. you're right. I probably should have. Where I would then return to the single sentence that I'm referring to and nothing will have changed. Do you even understand what I'm talking about? Because that would be nice." permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children) The headline to me clearly is stating that people are not buying Teslas and are buying alternative Chinese based EVs instead. I think that anyone that's heard Elon's name over the past 6 months can read between the lines and understand the causation here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) Well - I would hope. But that's not the same as putting it in there is it. "Tesla sales drop as EU consumers choose Chinese brands plus Musk is y'know WINK" I mean, I can see why they didn't go with that one but still. There are plenty of people who don't understand Elmo is an out-and-out nazi, cozy with putin and Peter Thiel and will destroy the country as soon as possible. Not mentioning him and his drugged-out asinine ideas in the headline is a missed opportunity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) The title isn't there to tell the whole story though. It should give a high level summary and then the details are in the article. If you hypothetically put something like what you suggested, it still doesn't give all of the context, and the title would need to be longer to include the history of Musk, his drug use, his position with Tesla, etc, and you can't put that all in the title. I'm all for dunking on that Nazi whenever we can, but I personally don't think that the title of this article deserves any criticism, especially in the age of clickbait titles that don't give anything, this one is decently descriptive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I’ll give you that. I just want more. Elmo’s such a stain that not factoring it directly to Tesla-going-down stories seems like skimping. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children) Well - I would hope. But that's not the same as putting it in there is it. "Tesla sales drop as EU consumers choose Chinese brands plus Musk is y'know WINK" I mean, I can see why they didn't go with that one but still. There are plenty of people who don't understand Elmo is an out-and-out nazi, cozy with putin and Peter Thiel and will destroy the country as soon as possible. Not mentioning him and his drugged-out asinine ideas in the headline is a missed opportunity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) The title isn't there to tell the whole story though. It should give a high level summary and then the details are in the article. If you hypothetically put something like what you suggested, it still doesn't give all of the context, and the title would need to be longer to include the history of Musk, his drug use, his position with Tesla, etc, and you can't put that all in the title. I'm all for dunking on that Nazi whenever we can, but I personally don't think that the title of this article deserves any criticism, especially in the age of clickbait titles that don't give anything, this one is decently descriptive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I’ll give you that. I just want more. Elmo’s such a stain that not factoring it directly to Tesla-going-down stories seems like skimping. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) The title isn't there to tell the whole story though. It should give a high level summary and then the details are in the article. If you hypothetically put something like what you suggested, it still doesn't give all of the context, and the title would need to be longer to include the history of Musk, his drug use, his position with Tesla, etc, and you can't put that all in the title. I'm all for dunking on that Nazi whenever we can, but I personally don't think that the title of this article deserves any criticism, especially in the age of clickbait titles that don't give anything, this one is decently descriptive. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I’ll give you that. I just want more. Elmo’s such a stain that not factoring it directly to Tesla-going-down stories seems like skimping. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I’ll give you that. I just want more. Elmo’s such a stain that not factoring it directly to Tesla-going-down stories seems like skimping. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RazgrizOne@piefed.zip 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) My comment is about the headline. Yes? I read that. Everyone read that. That's what my comment is referring to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) You could just say, "you're right, I probably should have." Try it sometime, it's nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago "the headline is wrong" Wahhhh you didn't read the article! "that's true. you're right. I probably should have. Where I would then return to the single sentence that I'm referring to and nothing will have changed. Do you even understand what I'm talking about? Because that would be nice." permalink fedilink source parent
[+] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) My comment is about the headline. Yes? I read that. Everyone read that. That's what my comment is referring to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) You could just say, "you're right, I probably should have." Try it sometime, it's nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago "the headline is wrong" Wahhhh you didn't read the article! "that's true. you're right. I probably should have. Where I would then return to the single sentence that I'm referring to and nothing will have changed. Do you even understand what I'm talking about? Because that would be nice." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) You could just say, "you're right, I probably should have." Try it sometime, it's nice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago "the headline is wrong" Wahhhh you didn't read the article! "that's true. you're right. I probably should have. Where I would then return to the single sentence that I'm referring to and nothing will have changed. Do you even understand what I'm talking about? Because that would be nice." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago "the headline is wrong" Wahhhh you didn't read the article! "that's true. you're right. I probably should have. Where I would then return to the single sentence that I'm referring to and nothing will have changed. Do you even understand what I'm talking about? Because that would be nice." permalink fedilink source parent