I bought a Stoeger A30 .177 495fps from Canadian Tire because it seemed decent for the price and had a 3-9x40 scope. I've run about 150 pellets through it now, and I'm just confused by the spread.

I know that everybody says there's a break in period during which it will be inconsistent, but I get the feeling that what I am seeing is worse than expected. Further, consistency doesn't seem to be improving. The image shows four groupings:

  • target 23, 10, 1 (in order of firing, first two last night and 1 this morning): Stoeger
  • target 30: Marksman

These are ~1.5" squares, and I'm aiming for the center of each target. I am not a great shooter, I wouldn't even say good - I just want to get rid of a rat in my backyard, and I haven't shot in years. But I used my 20yo Marksman 1745 with a floppy barrel and a 4x20 scope I can barely see through, and I can get more accurate and better groupings.

These shots were taken at 11 yards. I'm using a camera tripod with a custom block on top to support the barrel of the Stoeger and the stock of the Marksman (as laying the barrel on it results in deflecting the barrel up about 8 MOA lol), and using a loose hold at the butt of the rifle. I'm a fidgety fucker that can't stay still, but I'd say that I'm still enough at release with the Stoeger, considering the trigger is far smoother and lighter than the Marksman and I'm holding it farther from the supporting pivot point (both farther down the rifle and a longer rifle overall).

Another thing to note is that the scope that came with the Stoeger could not be mounted to it without shimming the rear mount up, as I immediately ran out of elevation adjustment. I used a couple layers of electrical tape, didn't over tighten it, and have retightened it twice since as it settles in. It's possible, but I don't think that the scope is moving shot to shot.

It's weird. I'll have two of three shots that are somewhat consistent (down and to the right, for example), and then the next shot will be twice as far the opposite way, and the following shot up and the right. It just seems like too great of a spread for only 11 yards, even this early in the break in period. The box was semi-open when I bought it, but the rifle itself seemed untouched, so I also have some concern that somebody returned it and the rifle itself has an issue. Although I don't know what that would be, because it looks mint, and oh boy is the pivot joint for the barrel ever tighter than the Marksman. I can move the Marksman barrel in all directions when closed, but the Stoeger is solid. Better be, considering it's like twice the weight for the same claimed fps

final edit (I think) because it's going to be too cold to continue soon:

  • this trigger is not a 'pull gently until it goes off" despite being a two stage smooth trigger — grip-and-pull alone decreases the spread by half for me

  • the spread on the non-defective model tightened up by 200 pellets

  • the variable scope may be slightly inaccurate at max zoom — backing off to half power results in lower spread (more testing needed to confirm)

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[–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

okay, so, the butt of the A30 was damaged (thread post for the lower butt pad mount screw was snapped), so I'm suspecting that this one has been dropped rather violently and somehow this is affecting consistency despite the body seeming rock solid

so I'm gonna return that one, and I went and bought another one. after a dozen shots to get the scope somewhat aligned, I shot these four low count groupings in pellets ~20-40 through this new A30, and it seems promising, although still nowhere near the expected final accuracy of a less than one inch group at 10 yards with my skill level. guess I'll see how it shoots after a hundred more pellets

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    yep, definitely was a defect with the first one. shots 40-100 in the attached image at 11 yards

    2 groupings of 10 shots each using 17, 15, and 13 yard parallax settings (parallax is clearly incorrect below the 13 yard setting at this distance), walking left to right in batches of 5 shots (i.e. 5 shots with 17y setting on target 1, then 15y target 3, then 13y target 5, then back through targets 5 - 3 - 1 for shots 6-10 with the matching parallax settings, and then repeat on the next row of targets)

    this is much tighter than the first A30. what's odd to me is I'll sometimes get 3 shots in a 1/4" spread and then the next shot is the farthest outlier in the grouping, seems not quite entirely random

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Better, but still not great...

    JSB, JTS, Gamo, and H&N all sell sampler packs, which are a fun and convenient way to try a whole range of pellet weights and shapes to find out what your gun likes.

    And sometimes you just get random fliers.

    I blame how they put soft lead objects with paper thin skirts loose in a tin that gets shaken around, and are then expected to fly straight...

    If you've ever seen how QYS pellets for high level competition come individually inserted into their own holes in foam inside a hard box...

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