▲ 712 ▼ Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to China Winning the AI Race (gizmodo.com) submitted 1 year ago by schizoidman@lemmy.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world 206 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 26 points 1 year ago (15 children) Chinese government is not trying to oppress their citizens yes they are permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago (14 children) I will never understand the hypocritical surveillance state apologism when it comes to China or Russia on this site. If China's surveillance state was purely for the benefit of their citizens, they wouldn't need such an extensive censorship apparatus that frequently censors minorities and minority beliefs (e.g. LGBT topics) as well as content that reflects particularly poorly on the government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (5 children) Precisely. Just ask Naomi Wu (SexyCyborg) how much she enjoys the surveillance state, how much she enjoyed being disappeared for a few months, how much she enjoys being told not to do any more techno State Resistance content, and how much she enjoys being able to leave but can't, because her partner is queer. Really, its a bunch of people who either like being in an in-group and/or they like feeling superior/powerful by promoting authoritarian communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (4 children) So no different the America. Just that America is going after the "Illegals" right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) why is this the staple response? "yeah but america" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Right? How about neither option? How about Authoritarianism is bad, regardless of who's doing it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago exactly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Two things can be bad at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago I will never understand the hypocritical surveillance state apologism when it comes to China or Russia on this site. People get brainwashed to conform, when they don't like a side they urge to pick another permalink fedilink source parent [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -6 points 1 year ago (6 children) If China’s surveillance state was purely for the benefit of their citizens, they wouldn’t need such an extensive censorship apparatus The freedom to lie and defraud, with money = speech, therefore money = terrorism, fraud, oppression is not constructive. Divisiveness and hate is not constructive. Inviting CIA to dominate your country's speech is inviting terrorism, fraud, oppression as we see in every US colony. Repressing American Oligarchist values propaganda is necessary for any constructive society. Nothing about them has the slightest humanist value. Gay pride is just as much a supremacist overstep as religious pride. AFAIK, there is no criminality (even in Russia) for homosexuality or religion. The supremacism is oppressed. CIA needs the divisiveness of supremacism/evangelism in order to destroy/conquer vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/06/30/russia-rising-toll-of-lgbt-extremism-designation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -11 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's a difference between the freedom to be gay (exists in Russia), and the freedom to advocate for LGBT supremacism with CIA funding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) This seems like a) you didn’t read the article, and b) that you yourself are homophobic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) article is about lgbtq organizations. This is not the same as sodomy, cohabitation/partnership prohibition laws. ie. it is not the same as being gay. Most important to pressure/get Russia to adopt progressive values, and help against climate terrorism, is to stop trying to destroy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I already said you didn’t read the article. You didn’t have to prove it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago AFAIK, there is no criminality (even in Russia) for homosexuality or religion. You don't know shit about fuck. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago (14 children) I will never understand the hypocritical surveillance state apologism when it comes to China or Russia on this site. If China's surveillance state was purely for the benefit of their citizens, they wouldn't need such an extensive censorship apparatus that frequently censors minorities and minority beliefs (e.g. LGBT topics) as well as content that reflects particularly poorly on the government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (5 children) Precisely. Just ask Naomi Wu (SexyCyborg) how much she enjoys the surveillance state, how much she enjoyed being disappeared for a few months, how much she enjoys being told not to do any more techno State Resistance content, and how much she enjoys being able to leave but can't, because her partner is queer. Really, its a bunch of people who either like being in an in-group and/or they like feeling superior/powerful by promoting authoritarian communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (4 children) So no different the America. Just that America is going after the "Illegals" right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) why is this the staple response? "yeah but america" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Right? How about neither option? How about Authoritarianism is bad, regardless of who's doing it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago exactly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Two things can be bad at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago I will never understand the hypocritical surveillance state apologism when it comes to China or Russia on this site. People get brainwashed to conform, when they don't like a side they urge to pick another permalink fedilink source parent [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -6 points 1 year ago (6 children) If China’s surveillance state was purely for the benefit of their citizens, they wouldn’t need such an extensive censorship apparatus The freedom to lie and defraud, with money = speech, therefore money = terrorism, fraud, oppression is not constructive. Divisiveness and hate is not constructive. Inviting CIA to dominate your country's speech is inviting terrorism, fraud, oppression as we see in every US colony. Repressing American Oligarchist values propaganda is necessary for any constructive society. Nothing about them has the slightest humanist value. Gay pride is just as much a supremacist overstep as religious pride. AFAIK, there is no criminality (even in Russia) for homosexuality or religion. The supremacism is oppressed. CIA needs the divisiveness of supremacism/evangelism in order to destroy/conquer vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/06/30/russia-rising-toll-of-lgbt-extremism-designation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -11 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's a difference between the freedom to be gay (exists in Russia), and the freedom to advocate for LGBT supremacism with CIA funding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) This seems like a) you didn’t read the article, and b) that you yourself are homophobic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) article is about lgbtq organizations. This is not the same as sodomy, cohabitation/partnership prohibition laws. ie. it is not the same as being gay. Most important to pressure/get Russia to adopt progressive values, and help against climate terrorism, is to stop trying to destroy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I already said you didn’t read the article. You didn’t have to prove it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago AFAIK, there is no criminality (even in Russia) for homosexuality or religion. You don't know shit about fuck. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago (5 children) Precisely. Just ask Naomi Wu (SexyCyborg) how much she enjoys the surveillance state, how much she enjoyed being disappeared for a few months, how much she enjoys being told not to do any more techno State Resistance content, and how much she enjoys being able to leave but can't, because her partner is queer. Really, its a bunch of people who either like being in an in-group and/or they like feeling superior/powerful by promoting authoritarian communism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Auli@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (4 children) So no different the America. Just that America is going after the "Illegals" right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) why is this the staple response? "yeah but america" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Right? How about neither option? How about Authoritarianism is bad, regardless of who's doing it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago exactly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Two things can be bad at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (4 children) So no different the America. Just that America is going after the "Illegals" right now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) why is this the staple response? "yeah but america" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Right? How about neither option? How about Authoritarianism is bad, regardless of who's doing it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago exactly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Two things can be bad at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) why is this the staple response? "yeah but america" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Right? How about neither option? How about Authoritarianism is bad, regardless of who's doing it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago exactly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Right? How about neither option? How about Authoritarianism is bad, regardless of who's doing it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago exactly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Two things can be bad at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago I will never understand the hypocritical surveillance state apologism when it comes to China or Russia on this site. People get brainwashed to conform, when they don't like a side they urge to pick another permalink fedilink source parent
[+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -6 points 1 year ago (6 children) If China’s surveillance state was purely for the benefit of their citizens, they wouldn’t need such an extensive censorship apparatus The freedom to lie and defraud, with money = speech, therefore money = terrorism, fraud, oppression is not constructive. Divisiveness and hate is not constructive. Inviting CIA to dominate your country's speech is inviting terrorism, fraud, oppression as we see in every US colony. Repressing American Oligarchist values propaganda is necessary for any constructive society. Nothing about them has the slightest humanist value. Gay pride is just as much a supremacist overstep as religious pride. AFAIK, there is no criminality (even in Russia) for homosexuality or religion. The supremacism is oppressed. CIA needs the divisiveness of supremacism/evangelism in order to destroy/conquer vassals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/06/30/russia-rising-toll-of-lgbt-extremism-designation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -11 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's a difference between the freedom to be gay (exists in Russia), and the freedom to advocate for LGBT supremacism with CIA funding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) This seems like a) you didn’t read the article, and b) that you yourself are homophobic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) article is about lgbtq organizations. This is not the same as sodomy, cohabitation/partnership prohibition laws. ie. it is not the same as being gay. Most important to pressure/get Russia to adopt progressive values, and help against climate terrorism, is to stop trying to destroy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I already said you didn’t read the article. You didn’t have to prove it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago AFAIK, there is no criminality (even in Russia) for homosexuality or religion. You don't know shit about fuck. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/06/30/russia-rising-toll-of-lgbt-extremism-designation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -11 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's a difference between the freedom to be gay (exists in Russia), and the freedom to advocate for LGBT supremacism with CIA funding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) This seems like a) you didn’t read the article, and b) that you yourself are homophobic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) article is about lgbtq organizations. This is not the same as sodomy, cohabitation/partnership prohibition laws. ie. it is not the same as being gay. Most important to pressure/get Russia to adopt progressive values, and help against climate terrorism, is to stop trying to destroy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I already said you didn’t read the article. You didn’t have to prove it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -11 points 1 year ago (3 children) There's a difference between the freedom to be gay (exists in Russia), and the freedom to advocate for LGBT supremacism with CIA funding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) This seems like a) you didn’t read the article, and b) that you yourself are homophobic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) article is about lgbtq organizations. This is not the same as sodomy, cohabitation/partnership prohibition laws. ie. it is not the same as being gay. Most important to pressure/get Russia to adopt progressive values, and help against climate terrorism, is to stop trying to destroy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I already said you didn’t read the article. You didn’t have to prove it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) This seems like a) you didn’t read the article, and b) that you yourself are homophobic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) article is about lgbtq organizations. This is not the same as sodomy, cohabitation/partnership prohibition laws. ie. it is not the same as being gay. Most important to pressure/get Russia to adopt progressive values, and help against climate terrorism, is to stop trying to destroy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I already said you didn’t read the article. You didn’t have to prove it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -6 points 1 year ago* (1 child) article is about lgbtq organizations. This is not the same as sodomy, cohabitation/partnership prohibition laws. ie. it is not the same as being gay. Most important to pressure/get Russia to adopt progressive values, and help against climate terrorism, is to stop trying to destroy it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I already said you didn’t read the article. You didn’t have to prove it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago I already said you didn’t read the article. You didn’t have to prove it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago AFAIK, there is no criminality (even in Russia) for homosexuality or religion. You don't know shit about fuck. permalink fedilink source parent