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The Framework/Omarchy thing. (i.ytimg.com)
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Does anyone know what's going on at Framework?

One of my friends mentioned Omarchy is great but he said to not use it cause of it's creator and I only just stumbled onto this trashfire just today.

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[–] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Crazy racist my guy. I also have no idea what makes you think that releasing a desktop computer makes someone far right.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I should clarify - framework releasing a desktop was a sign of enshittification of the company in general, not being far right. Desktops are already highly customizable.

    As for the other thing, it's just a strange pattern that seems to have been emerging. The CEO of Google, CEO of Microsoft, and now Framework.

    As for politicians, there's the UK and India itself as examples.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Enshittification I can see, that's reasonable. Though I personally support them trying to make a buck off of AI by having it as a platform readily available for self hosting.

    And as for indian-decendant leaders, I think what you are observing is simply the fact that there are 1.5 billion people that are indian nationals, or in other words like 18% of human population. With them having a better connection to the west than many other highly populated asian countries, it stands to reason that some evil CEOs will be indian. But as far as I'm concerned the vast majority of evil CEOs in the west are still Caucasian. I think you are wearing some racially fixating glasses you would benefit from taking off. I see this a lot in the USA. I'd be far more interested if any evil CEO inside the USA has had a nationality other than american within their lifetime.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    What I mean by my current is that it seems to be a recent phenomenon of seeing both a rise in the far right but also that out of all minorities in power, it's people of indian descent that usually have those top positions in English speaking western countries and are or support the far right.

    However, considering India itself is culturally far right, my guess is that's the reason as to why. But I suppose by sheer numbers, as you pointed out, would be the reason they predominantly occupy that role, along with the predominant cultural values of India as an average whole.

    Still, you'd think you see more of other minorities too, like Chinese, considering that population is globally high too. So it makes me wonder why India specifically? There must be more dynamics at play than just sheer numbers.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Well, as I said India is politically a lot closer to the west historically speaking. If you go to the USA from China you can be imprisoned. Besides, China is already a hub for innovation, so you don't have to leave it to be a successful capitalist and there is most definitely no lack of asian billionaires. It's the same story with Japan.

    And I did understand what you meant the second time around.

    Making the point that India is far-right is fair, though I am unable to verify that right now. Regardless, these are people that grew up in america we are talking about here. Most of them got their political education from american politics. They're not migrants.

    I wouldn't be surprised that it's just those specific indian people having the required skills. Because we do have to recognize that Nirav Patel is incredibly educated. While I think DEI being defunded is a move to fight against inclusion, there is just no way around people of color also being intelligent people and thus good for business.

    All in all, you're wearing glasses. Indian demographics are not to blame for USAs issues. It's american capitalism in this case. Capitalism tends to want to be ever growing and when there is no more growth possible within humanly norms, then they just continue outside of that. Ironically, that's always been their downfall. You'd think they'd learn from history. I guess a system can't learn.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Those are all good points.

    I will say you don't have to be a migrant to be affected by a different country's culture, because your family will still be culturally affected and will likely even practice traditions or celebrate old holidays and customs. I say that from experience - I only speak Spanish with my parents, and grew up watching mostly only Spanish news and programs, even though I was born in the USA.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sure, for hispanics in america, that is certainly the case. But I am yet to hear from an indian tv show that is broadcasted in america. I'm sure they exist, I am just unaware. I could imagine the religion (hinduism, buddhism, yoga) may find a space, but I am european and could also imagine that america is not the best place for that. Language is certainly another. There is a certain size of community required for culture to prevail in an otherwise culturally dominated country. I know that, because I live in germany and we have large populations of middle eastern and turkish people. They have strong communities. Very nice actually, often the most respectful people in our country. We also have Danes, which are a recognized minority, yet they do not really have any community. And while america is made up of 60% caucasians, with 18% being hispanic (I know not spanish), it's only 4% asian, with 1.5% being indian. For reference, there are 50k danes and 1 million syrian in germany.

    That all being said, the indian population is growing significantly outside of india, which is funny to me. So their diasphora in the USA will be growing as well.

    It also has to do with indian traditions being less compatible with european traditions than hispanic culture. It's the same as someone going to china. They won't be holding on to their digital privacy for long.

    On a side note, I have been getting into Buddhism. Not as a religion, more as a philosophy. It's surprisingly good, though what else do you expect from a culture that is 10000 years old in comparison to our mere 3000. I won't be becoming a religious person any time soon, but I find it brings just another view into my world.

    Have a nice day and if you can't bear the USA anymore, Spain is pretty nice right now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh I moved long ago, and have been living in Finland.

    When I spoke of the USA, it was before the internet was prevalent. Facebook was barely new as a concept once I was in university.

    I imagine now though it's easier than ever to keep cultural ties / influence with the home country of parents or grandparents, with the internet being ubiquitous. Back then, you basically were tied to radio and if lucky tv. If my Hmong partner's parents can easily access content and news from Laos in the USA I'm certain it's even easier for people originally from India to do so.

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