The suspect is still at large - officials earlier said they found a high-powered rifle in woods near where Kirk was shot. Also, "high powered rifle" essentially means "not a 22".

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[–] 197 points 1 year ago* (38 children)

Cartridges with "transgender and anti-fascist" writing on them were found.

Why would somebody smart enough to evade capture, and dump the weapon in the woods, leave a cutesy little note on the cartridge clearly identifying their political beliefs?

Why is this like the 3rd high profile murder that seems to be tipping us towards civil war, where the killer has allegedly done this?

How did that old man end up in handcuffs if this is the guy they were looking for? Why did it take so long to release this image? So many questions.

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  • [–] [S] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How did that old man end up in handcuffs if this is the guy they were looking for?

    That was a long time ago, relatively speaking. Well before they had collected any video whatsoever.

    Why did it take so long to release this image?

    It takes a good deal of time to acquire and scour through all the video available. They initially thought they would be able to identify this person without releasing images, and probably didn't want another lionization as with Not Luigi. I guess that didn't pan out.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Early reporting on stuff like this is almost always wrong, so take it with a grain of salt. We have no idea who is spreading that info and it could very well be intentional misinfo.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    A week from now it won't matter that the reporting was wrong because it's already fact in the minds of their audience.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    "A lie travels half way around the world while the truth is still putting on its pants."

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    lol I think it’s “boots”

    Why did the truth have their pants down

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Idk do you always wear pants? Cuz I never wear em if I have the choice

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Realistically, the minds of the audience were made up before the reporting. ;) The reporting just confirms what they already "know".

    Looks like the "engraved cartridges" story is coming from the Wall Street Journal. So, Murdoch.

    https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/ammunition-in-kirk-shooting-engraved-with-transgender-antifascist-ideology-sources-pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Investigators found ammunition engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology inside the rifle that authorities believe was used in the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk, according to an internal law-enforcement bulletin and a person familiar with the investigation.

    Without the actual text, for all we know, it says "we all have rights". I would be entirely unsurprised if a right-wing agency head decides that it warrants looking into left-leaning individuals, then someone leaks it to the press to start the dissemination of that narrative that it was proved to be a left-wing shooter before anyone actually caught him.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I know it has since come to light that he was alt-right, but anything written on evidence would likely be to throw off the investigation if one was smart. Print an AI manifesto of everything you're against to throw off the scent to buy time. If I were ever to do such a thing, mine would all say "LOL!" Or "boner" or something. But that's just cause I'm juvenile, not psychotic, and thus would never really do such a thing in the first place.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Dumping the weapons in the woods not far from the university is a pretty shit way tbh. Weapons are extremely traceable and contain a shitload of DNA evidence. You’d rather be able to get it further out and dump it with weights into a deep fast flowing river.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yeah, that seems like a no-brainer, especially for someone who obviously planned it out and got away. I'm skeptical that whatever they've found is actually the murder weapon.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Lol whut. Maybe you are just joking, but finding a random rifle isn’t exactly just a common occurrence. They’re expensive and it’s not like people who own them like to leave them in the woods for storage.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Sure, but the video shows the gunman running away without a rifle, and dropping from the roof again, without a rifle. It shows a backpack that is far too small to conceal a rifle in the hands of the gunman- so did they cover it in a white towel and throw it into the woods from the roof or what? Lots of things aren't adding up yet, and I'm the first person to decry blueanon conspiracy theories.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Rifles can be disassembled. This is what Ear Shooter did to get in. I’m still curious to know how long it takes to pull an old Mauser down to backpack size.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Cartridges with "transgender and anti-fascist" writing on them were found.

    Unsurprisingly, barely any of the media is reporting that correctly.

    That's how it was described by government officials when leaked to specific news agencies and kept extremely vague. "Transgender and anti-fascist" writing could mean "we have equal rights" or "gun control is safety" for all we know, but now the narrative is out there for them finding "evidence" that the perpetrator is {insert some trigger word for groups that the right already thinks is trying to destroy them}.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    are you seeing that in the article?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    This looks like at least three different people I know, not that they did it. Just want to point out that this guy is probably 35+ and not actually college age as they said theyve been looking for. Hes a dead ringer for older guy that looks young, yet they are looking for a 20 year old

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Why would somebody smart enough to evade capture, and dump the weapon in the woods, leave a cutesy little note on the cartridge clearly identifying their political beliefs?

    I think they identified their political beliefs when they murdered a right wing talking head. That was the whole point.

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