Yes you did, you said both systems are opaque so I can't have "facts" for you.

So equally, you don't have any to back up your claims either. In fact you went so far as to dismiss a comment by another user where you stated that you're ignoring Apple's claims because they can't prove it because their code is closed. So what's the point?

If the facts someone presents to you can be dismissed by you because you refuse to believe it, then me echoing them won't make any difference will it?

And yet you can happily claim the opposite and say what I'm saying is untrue, with equally as few facts.

You want me to prove my claim that Apple harvests less data, but you haven't got any proof of your claim that they collect the same as Google. All while saying that because the system is opaque that it can't be proved.

This entire conversation is absurd.