Kyiv sees a well-equipped army as a stronger deterrent to Moscow than any Western pledges to defend it. It is working to attract billions to buy more arms.

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[–] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So is the endgame for Ukraine to acquire underground nukes? Honestly that might be the only way to really force a standoff and de-escalation. I wouldn't blame them at all, since they were betrayed after giving up the ones they originally had.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They should be. Russia would have never set a toe in Ukraine if they kept the nukes, and the fuckery of Russia invading and the 'civilized world' sitting around with thumbs up their asses since 2014 seems like proof that having nuclear weapons is a prerequisite to maintaining sovereignty

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I can’t blame them for wanting it, but let’s not go there.

    Reducing the number of countries with nukes was and still is a good idea. Everyone seems to think that MAD was a reasonable strategy because we muddled through without ending civilization. It is not. It is not foregone. It is not likely. It is way too big a risk for all of civilization.

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