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[–] 19 points 1 year ago (20 children)

zero knowledge. It’s called learning.

I have a degree in this shit. Get off your stupid high horse, you're not helping or educating anyone. You just want to feel good about yourself by calling other people stupid and doing a shit job at science advocacy. How about you learn what not being an arrogant dick looks like?

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    We should stop treating adults like children. This is not hard. When people attack science we should back. Being ignorant is not useful to anyone.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    That initial comment can be taken in two ways, and you chose the worst one by thinking they're antivax when in fact they're not. Take a look at this removed comment from the modlog by the person you originally replied to:

    Not to mention the context. It's Lemmy where the overwhelming majority of users are squarely pro-vax and generally well-educated to assume the worst from the get-go. The least you can do is skim through a user's comment history to get a sense of what they mean if you're so keen on people figuring things out on their own. At least be coherent in that front.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    So your point is to abandon conviction in science based on person and community. Nah

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    My point is for you to stop being arrogant, stop assuming things, and learn proper science communication. Keep your conviction, but do it right.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Telling people they can learn anything is arrogant? They can.. They just don't want to.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    The way you're going about it is arrogant. The starting point you're proposing is unintuitive, more time-consuming, impractical, and wildly expensive. "Well, they don't want to learn!" Really.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    I respectfully disagree. I think that's high education, elitist nonsense and the reason there is little to no progress being made. You all gatekeep.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    How is it elitist to tell you that you're promoting the most impractical way for lay people to learn and then blame them for not following through? lol

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    That school is required. I don't care what you think about me. Lol

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I love how you drop the second part of that sentence: That school is required for the way you're proposing it. And don't come at me with "I linked the videos somewhere" because your original approach was doo-doo and also elitist.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    I think you want it that way and so it was. Your feelings about what you read and how you read it is not my concern. I clearly said both are required.(reading,watching,doing.. whatever.. not a stupid degree) And i reject the notion this is too complex to learn over a few weeks.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

    Glad you corrected course, I hope it was good. Also, you're the only one talking about feelings for some strange reason. I usually hear that from people who are looking for a reaction when they're left with a stinging feeling after being called out. Anything you'd like to share? Point to where it hurts.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Never changed it. Oh, feelings because you are using personality defining terms. Meaning you feel a way about them. I think its logical. No, but you ended on a logical fallacy. You are using your own created opinion of mine.. as an argument. hmm

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    What personality-defining terms? lol I'm describing what you did. If I ended with "a logical fallacy ☝🤓" it's only because you're dropping decorum with the feelings bullshit. Drop the shit or we're gonna be rolling in it because I can roll up my sleeves if you want me to.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    "describing what you did" didn't I just say this? Yea, go into court and describe it your way. Let me know how that works out. Not sure i follow on the rest.. but sure, do whatever. I said i respectfully disagree. You insisted on telling me how you felt about my approach - never commented about you personally. Its outside of the scope of this conversation.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    how you felt about my approach

    Again with your emotional language. How about what I think about it? Because idk about you, but I was sharing my thoughts. Seems like you were projecting about your feelings, though.

    never commented about you personally

    Oh, you just called me emotional, but whatever. You sure didn't do the thing you claimed you didn't do.

    Its outside of the scope of this conversation.

    You think? Glad you found a way to feel like the bigger person there. Really showing by example.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Fine "think" not sure why the salience of that word is so important to you. I called you emotional? No, I didn't (you said above "your emotional language." lol). How do you get emotion from the word "feel"? I can feel current.. Is current emotion? sigh Once again, last part escapes me. You are connecting dots that don't exist to make a point that is subjective. You call me arrogant but you are trying to force me to accept your analysis of myself. That's wild arrogant. I'm just blunt. Also, when someone says feel.. that's their observation (kind of like you keep saying "your emotional language."). You don't get to control that. Feel me? lol Why I didn't dismiss you calling me it. How can I? I'm not you.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're reflecting language patterns I've seen in people who are projecting their emotions by accusing others of them. And if you quack and walk like a duck, I'm going to conclude you are one without getting bogged down by pedantic details. I've been randomly accused of being emotional a few times and then described in those terms, trying to frame me through that lens with every interaction. Feelings and emotions are not too far apart, and that's not a huge mystery to be pretending like you don't understand the connection. Sorry if that's not the case, but you were behaving in a certain way.

    you are trying to force me to accept your analysis of myself

    Forcing you? Don't confuse replying to messages in my inbox and standing my ground with you being at the center of my world. I don't care what you think or who you are, but I do care that you're acting like an arrogant asshole with a better-than-thou attitude when people are not behaving like self-taught savants with a million bucks to throw at some random website for their own personal CRISPR starter kits just so they can correct beliefs about vaccines that they do not have.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    "I’ve seen in people" lol then talk about projection.. Can you have a logical none bias conversation? You are consumed by your opinion, what you see, how you read it. You are fighting yourself. .. name calling.. child like behavior.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    "I’ve seen in people" lol

    I clarified in the next sentence that they were all direct replies to me. And you dare comment on me fixating on the "salience" of a word? Give me a fucking break, dude.

    Can you have a logical none bias conversation?

    Can you not write a sentence without some stupid loaded language? Because that's all you've been doing lately.

    You are fighting yourself. .. name calling.. child like behavior.

    Helloooo, kettle. Talk about emotions some more! Want me to link you to your comment that started all this? Did you forget who broke decorum first?

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