▲ 403 ▼ Google's practice of requiring Gmail addresses for user accounts is illegal, according to a German court ruling. The parent company of GMX and Web.de (Ionos) had filed a lawsuit. (www.zdfheute.de) submitted 1 year ago by Blaze@piefed.zip to c/privacy@programming.dev 40 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children) Better doesn't mean good. Don't mix them up. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (6 children) But it's neither good nor better, it's worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) Adding more options to be less identifiable is "worse". I completely see your logic 👍 Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Phone numbers are more identifiable. They're more scarce and harder to get anonymous than an email address. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) No, they are not. Not every country requires KYC to get a SIM card. They can be purchased in many places with cash, sometimes even with default generic credentials. Also if you add the space of emails to the space of phone numbers, it increases the space of possible sources for account creation, which logically dilutes the space. And just to remind you, the article is about creating accounts required to use mobile phones with Google accounts. Making it possible to use your Google phone with just your phone number instead of requiring an additional email makes it specifically less identifiable. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) You realize how limiting it is to have to buy a sim card, right? I can register 1,000 anononmous email accounts in an hour. Its free. Now do that with phone numbers. Also, putting a Sim card in your phone exposed you to enormous security risk. Lots of folks use phones without ever connecting then to cell towers. Email is the security and privacy alternative to phone numbers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Are you even reading the entirety of my responses? It seems like you're reading one small bit, ignoring the context, focusing on that and making non-sequitur arguments. If you want to debate your strawman, do it without me. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago "I have so much money that I don't care about buying hundreds of Sim cards for new accounts. And in in my country I can buy a Sim card anonymously. I don't want to think about people in other countries who have mandatory Sim card registration laws. Lalalala" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (6 children) But it's neither good nor better, it's worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) Adding more options to be less identifiable is "worse". I completely see your logic 👍 Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Phone numbers are more identifiable. They're more scarce and harder to get anonymous than an email address. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) No, they are not. Not every country requires KYC to get a SIM card. They can be purchased in many places with cash, sometimes even with default generic credentials. Also if you add the space of emails to the space of phone numbers, it increases the space of possible sources for account creation, which logically dilutes the space. And just to remind you, the article is about creating accounts required to use mobile phones with Google accounts. Making it possible to use your Google phone with just your phone number instead of requiring an additional email makes it specifically less identifiable. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) You realize how limiting it is to have to buy a sim card, right? I can register 1,000 anononmous email accounts in an hour. Its free. Now do that with phone numbers. Also, putting a Sim card in your phone exposed you to enormous security risk. Lots of folks use phones without ever connecting then to cell towers. Email is the security and privacy alternative to phone numbers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Are you even reading the entirety of my responses? It seems like you're reading one small bit, ignoring the context, focusing on that and making non-sequitur arguments. If you want to debate your strawman, do it without me. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago "I have so much money that I don't care about buying hundreds of Sim cards for new accounts. And in in my country I can buy a Sim card anonymously. I don't want to think about people in other countries who have mandatory Sim card registration laws. Lalalala" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) Adding more options to be less identifiable is "worse". I completely see your logic 👍 Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Phone numbers are more identifiable. They're more scarce and harder to get anonymous than an email address. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) No, they are not. Not every country requires KYC to get a SIM card. They can be purchased in many places with cash, sometimes even with default generic credentials. Also if you add the space of emails to the space of phone numbers, it increases the space of possible sources for account creation, which logically dilutes the space. And just to remind you, the article is about creating accounts required to use mobile phones with Google accounts. Making it possible to use your Google phone with just your phone number instead of requiring an additional email makes it specifically less identifiable. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) You realize how limiting it is to have to buy a sim card, right? I can register 1,000 anononmous email accounts in an hour. Its free. Now do that with phone numbers. Also, putting a Sim card in your phone exposed you to enormous security risk. Lots of folks use phones without ever connecting then to cell towers. Email is the security and privacy alternative to phone numbers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Are you even reading the entirety of my responses? It seems like you're reading one small bit, ignoring the context, focusing on that and making non-sequitur arguments. If you want to debate your strawman, do it without me. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago "I have so much money that I don't care about buying hundreds of Sim cards for new accounts. And in in my country I can buy a Sim card anonymously. I don't want to think about people in other countries who have mandatory Sim card registration laws. Lalalala" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (4 children) Phone numbers are more identifiable. They're more scarce and harder to get anonymous than an email address. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) No, they are not. Not every country requires KYC to get a SIM card. They can be purchased in many places with cash, sometimes even with default generic credentials. Also if you add the space of emails to the space of phone numbers, it increases the space of possible sources for account creation, which logically dilutes the space. And just to remind you, the article is about creating accounts required to use mobile phones with Google accounts. Making it possible to use your Google phone with just your phone number instead of requiring an additional email makes it specifically less identifiable. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) You realize how limiting it is to have to buy a sim card, right? I can register 1,000 anononmous email accounts in an hour. Its free. Now do that with phone numbers. Also, putting a Sim card in your phone exposed you to enormous security risk. Lots of folks use phones without ever connecting then to cell towers. Email is the security and privacy alternative to phone numbers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Are you even reading the entirety of my responses? It seems like you're reading one small bit, ignoring the context, focusing on that and making non-sequitur arguments. If you want to debate your strawman, do it without me. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago "I have so much money that I don't care about buying hundreds of Sim cards for new accounts. And in in my country I can buy a Sim card anonymously. I don't want to think about people in other countries who have mandatory Sim card registration laws. Lalalala" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) No, they are not. Not every country requires KYC to get a SIM card. They can be purchased in many places with cash, sometimes even with default generic credentials. Also if you add the space of emails to the space of phone numbers, it increases the space of possible sources for account creation, which logically dilutes the space. And just to remind you, the article is about creating accounts required to use mobile phones with Google accounts. Making it possible to use your Google phone with just your phone number instead of requiring an additional email makes it specifically less identifiable. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) You realize how limiting it is to have to buy a sim card, right? I can register 1,000 anononmous email accounts in an hour. Its free. Now do that with phone numbers. Also, putting a Sim card in your phone exposed you to enormous security risk. Lots of folks use phones without ever connecting then to cell towers. Email is the security and privacy alternative to phone numbers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Are you even reading the entirety of my responses? It seems like you're reading one small bit, ignoring the context, focusing on that and making non-sequitur arguments. If you want to debate your strawman, do it without me. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago "I have so much money that I don't care about buying hundreds of Sim cards for new accounts. And in in my country I can buy a Sim card anonymously. I don't want to think about people in other countries who have mandatory Sim card registration laws. Lalalala" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) You realize how limiting it is to have to buy a sim card, right? I can register 1,000 anononmous email accounts in an hour. Its free. Now do that with phone numbers. Also, putting a Sim card in your phone exposed you to enormous security risk. Lots of folks use phones without ever connecting then to cell towers. Email is the security and privacy alternative to phone numbers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Are you even reading the entirety of my responses? It seems like you're reading one small bit, ignoring the context, focusing on that and making non-sequitur arguments. If you want to debate your strawman, do it without me. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago "I have so much money that I don't care about buying hundreds of Sim cards for new accounts. And in in my country I can buy a Sim card anonymously. I don't want to think about people in other countries who have mandatory Sim card registration laws. Lalalala" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) Are you even reading the entirety of my responses? It seems like you're reading one small bit, ignoring the context, focusing on that and making non-sequitur arguments. If you want to debate your strawman, do it without me. Anti Commercial-AI license permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago "I have so much money that I don't care about buying hundreds of Sim cards for new accounts. And in in my country I can buy a Sim card anonymously. I don't want to think about people in other countries who have mandatory Sim card registration laws. Lalalala" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 point 1 year ago "I have so much money that I don't care about buying hundreds of Sim cards for new accounts. And in in my country I can buy a Sim card anonymously. I don't want to think about people in other countries who have mandatory Sim card registration laws. Lalalala" permalink fedilink source parent