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Today I found out about fish shell (fishshell.com)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/linux@lemmy.world
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I just found out about fish shell a few moments ago. I switched Konsole on KDE to use it instead of bash and am impressed so far. Might install it on the Pihole eventually. Good stuff, just wanted to share. :)

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[–] 9 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I gave it a try recently and ended up going back to zsh and plugins that do fish things.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    So you want the features of fish? Why'd you go back to zsh then?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I use fish on a couple of devices, but damn it's frustrating when you want to do a fast and simple bash scripting and it doesn't work. Frankly now I think it would have been better to spend some time to setup zsh.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    but damn it's frustrating when you want to do a fast and simple bash scripting

    Of course it's going to be frustrating to try to write bash scripts and then try to run them as fish scripts.

    What you should be doing is writing fish scripts and running them as fish scripts. That is a much more pleasant experience. 🙃

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I know. I just don't want to. There's no point in learning fish scripting, you won't use them anywhere unless you want your colleagues to hate you because now they also have to learn it for no reason.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I only use my scripts privately and my scripts are now shorter and easier to read and maintain. Also I use it as my everyday shell, and I couldn't be happier with a shell right now, that I know of. The documentation is also extremely good. Simple to understand, and a small language.

    There's a big point to learning it if you like its design principles. But if you don't, then there isn't. 👍

    Enjoy whatever shell you like!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I still write all my scripts for bash (or busybox sh) with a shebang, then call it from fish.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I do too but then you want to just run basic for i;do x;done and you need to translate it to fish syntax.

    It wasn't much of a problem but this thread actually convinced me that there's less profit from fish than using something like an old oh-my-zsh(probably much easier to setup now).

    Is it good if you setup your new pc, don't have your configs at hand and want a nice terminal with convenient features? Definitely. But I think it's better to spend 5 minutes afterwards to move away from it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I considered Fish but decided against it because of POSIX compliance

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I'm not trying to change your opinion, just curious: what is the reason for wanting POSIX compliance? You often share scripts? Dotfiles perhaps?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Fish isn’t posix compliant, so some scripts I use had issues. I'll play devil's advocate, why do you like fish? :)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    so some scripts I use had issues

    I just rewrote all of my scripts in idiomatic fish. 😄

    why do you like fish? :)

    It made my scripts 50% shorter on average, and 100% more legible. Short and simple. The code is easier to read and maintain, IMO. Less magic syntax that you need to look up in the bash manual* every dang time. You come back to your scripts after a few years and you just instantly can see what they do, without comments.

    (*) Speaking of the manual. The bash manual is quite long. And the zsh manual is a f—ing mess, split up into so many sections, and the thing I want to find is never where I first look, so I just go into the zsh "all" manual, which is humongous and difficult to navigate, basically just a cat of all the different zsh manuals.

    Fish has a short and sweet manual because the language is very small, and every command has its own manual page as well, which just makes sense on some level. Also it's available as a web page by typing help. Very convenient.

    Very well thought out. 👌

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I am shitty at shell scripting, so I often use other people's scripts from the internet with some minor tweaks. I've also put a lot of time into learning the nuances of zsh so there is also a lot of the sunk cost effect going on.

    Also, and this is an assumption, I think other shells just have a lot more online resources you know? I have not yet found any problems or ideas I've had that someone else haven't also had and solved.

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