understandable, given i picked up that language barely a week ago.

also, about rails crashing - it was bc rails wasn't importing ActiveSupport::LoggerThreadSafeLevel::Logger properly.

another reason i dont like rails is the sheer complexity of its project structure (seriously, 20 dirs/files for an empty project? django compared to that is like a feather to an anvil) - although some of its components (like active record) are admittedly fairly good, when used in isolation (if it wasn't for the fact that migrations don't work as rails is broken)