Forced opensourcing would totally destroy the profits, cause you spend money on research and then you opensource, so anyone can just grab your model and don’t pay you a cent.

DeepSeek was released

The profits were not destroyed.

Where would the profits come from?

At this point the speculation is primarily on what comes next.

People are betting on what they think LLMs will be able to do in the future, not what they do now.

I mean yes, and?

It's theft. They stole the work of writers and all sorts of content creators. That's the wrong that needs to be righted. Not how to reproduce the crime. The only way to right intellectual property theft is to pay the owner of that intellectual property the money they would have gotten if they had willingly leased it out as part of a deal. Corporations, like Nintendo, Disney, and Hasbro, hound people who do anything unapproved with their intellectual property. The idea that we're yes anding the intellectual property of all humanity is laughable in a discussion supposedly about ethics.

We should push to make high-vram devices accessible.

That's a whole other topic. But what we should fight for now is worker owned corporations. While that is an excellent goal, it isn't helping to undue the theft that was done on its own. It's only allowing more people to profit off that theft. We should also compensate the people who were stolen from if we care about ethics. Also, compensating writers and artists seems like a good reason to take all the money away from the billionaires.

Lots of talks with openai devs where they just doomsay about the dangers of AGI, and how it must be top secret controlled by govs.

OpenAI’s chief global affairs officer, Chris Lehane, wrote on LinkedIn

Looks like the devs aren't in control of the C-Suite. Whoops, all avoidable capitalist driven apocalypses.