Not sure if this belongs here or not but I thought it was relevant.

He died in a motorcycle accident that apparently wasn't his fault. An SUV failed to yield and hit him.

He was a hell of a player. Crack the Skye remains one of my top 5 albums.

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[–] 14 points 1 year ago* (16 children)

not his fault but you are putting yourself in a very vulnerable position every time you get on a motorcycle. ultimately the pavement doesn't care who is at fault, it rips you up just the same.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    You’re not wrong, but there’s a lot of victim blaming in this thread.

    There’s a lot that can be done to improve things, and most of them don’t involve escalating to bigger and bigger vehicles so that the other guy gets killed instead of you.

    Roads need to be designed for people, not cars.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    it's not victim blaming, more of a PSA. If you choose to ride a motorcycle you implicitly accept that stuff like this can happen.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    That is victim-blaming. “Oh well these things happen, they didn’t protect themselves well enough” is exactly that.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    this isn't a situation where a person was living their life and targeted by a criminal because of what they wore or whatever. THAT would be victim blaming.

    when you ride a motorcycle you accept it is dangerous and you are more likely to be killed. same as any other harmful activity like smoking cigarettes.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming#Urban_planning_and_road_safety

    As the majority of traffic accident victims are pedestrians and cyclists, measures to calm traffic and protect and facilitate the mobility of the most vulnerable should be implemented to avoid shifting responsibility.

    Motorcyclists absolutely fall into that category.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    motorcyclists absolutely do not fall into the same category as pedestriants and bicyclists.

    Pedestrians and bicyclists should get preferential treatment since they are clean mode of transport, and relatively safe on their own. Pedestrians and bicyclists are not zooming around at the same speeds as cars.

    If we were all to convert to walking or bicycling that would be great and very safe. If we were all to convert to motorcycles, they would still be very dangerous. There is no getting around the inherent danger in riding motorcycles.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    The inherent danger of motorcycles yes. But that inherent danger does not come from cars.

    [edit: this is side tracking from the original point which is that victim blaming does not refer exclusively to targets of criminal intent or whatever you were suggesting that it means.]

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah, why didn't he partecipate in the vehicular arms race?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    this is not a slippery slope issue. you can drive a reasonable car to keep yourself reasonably safe.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Or anticipate that all people are fallible and can fail to stop or yield at any time. A friend lost a leg in a similar accident. It's obviously not their fault, but being whole and alive beats being right. Even when I'm driving a car I look for road joins and defensively give everyone coming a wide berth. You just can't trust strangers.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    yes that has been my point from the beginning. you are going to get hit by someone at some point on the road, and when that happens you’re far better off with crash structures, air bags, and a seat belt around you.

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