All they wanted to do was pumpkins

All they wanted to laugh at was the pumpkins

Hey fella, I bet you’re still living in your parents cellar, downloading picture of Sarah Michelle Gellar

And posting “me too” like some braindead AOL-er I should do the world and cap you like Old Yeller

You’re just about as useless as JPEGs to Helen Keller

Weird Al did not need to make these lyrics slap so hard but I’m so glad he did.

You need a valid state ID or SSN to register. Can register online, by mail or in person.

If you get an EDL you are automatically registered.

Easy peasy.

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I miss Bumptop

The Game is Life series by Terry Schott.

The writing style can put people off but the concept itself and the world building done in the first couple books are just so damn interesting I would love to see a visual interpretation of it.

YES. I got into the young wizard series when I was a kid and cannot believe how long it’s been around without getting any screen time. SO underrated.

+1 for Bobiverse. Almost done with Book 1 and surprised it has been done already.

This shitpost is a real Poopship Destroyer

TBH I’m kind of glad the new CEO is a “Product” guy and not a “Numbers” guy (Tim was the COO for years under Steve, John was the SVP of HW engineering). If there’s any reason to be cool with this transition it’s that, Apple got real greedy under Tim.

This maps change was probably started under Tim; John just got the keys yesterday. I don’t not blame him for it as the new guy in charge but I’m still curious to see how he impacts Apple over the next few months to years (Apple generally has an ~18-ish month pipeline so it’s gonna take a little time to see the full scope).

If he fails us though, pls make John Turdus a thing 🤡

Missed chance to coin “John Turdus” OP

Like I mentioned above, if the hardware isn't allowed to run the latest OS, it becomes significantly handicapped, which greatly increases the likelihood that it will end up in the trash. I also feel that this is nearly entirely driven by profit motive.

Also totally valid. However, this concern is less of an “Apple doesn’t feel like letting me install whatever OS I want” problem and more of a “we don’t require tech companies to allow us the permissions necessary to do whatever we want on the devices we buy from them” problem.

Apple is absolutely guilty here, I just think it’s symptomatic of something larger and not entirely on their shoulders. But it seems they get all the attention whenever the discussion of planned obscelence appears, and that bothers me not because I think Apple’s some perfect entity, but because when you pick apart their rationale for doing so they are usually comparable or better in this respect to their peers, and we shouldn’t be hyperfixating on only one of them when trying to identify the issue.

I’m not trying to give Apple a pass by any means, merely bringing up the fact that the complaints posted here in this thread are not unique to them. There are plenty of reasons to be unhappy with them, I just haven’t seen any here yet that are specific to them or are indicative of them being measurably worse.

Windows 11 absolutely dropped support for hardware (TPM2.0?) , and is 5 years old at this point. If it were an Apple product it would just now be getting “vintage” status but still continue to get updates and where possible, repairs.

You can also install macOS on older (10+ years old) hardware as I’ve already covered.

iOS app compatibility is largely up to the app developer, not Apple. And for the past few years since I want to say ~2020 (I could be a little off there), you also have the option of installing an older version of an app if you’re on an old version of iOS that’s no longer supported by that developer. But again, that depends on the dev.

A large part of the problem rests on Apple’s shoulders

You know what? You’re absolutely right. They don’t make it easy for app devs to continue supporting legacy iOS versions in their latest app versions because each major iOS dev kits often introduce breaking changes specific to that version of iOS. Typically you might see the average app support N-2 (latest iOS and 2 major revisions back).

But here’s the cool part, that means my 9 year old iPad stuck on iOS 17 is still able to use almost all of the apps I typically have installed and use daily, and still gets updates for those apps. That’ll probably change soon, but even then I expect it to keep getting security updates for a few years.

In other words, I’m about to have a 10 year old iOS device still getting updated. Which is exactly in line with the benchmark we’ve both given now with Windows and macOS.

I’m struggling to see through all of this how Apple is materially worse at forced obsolescence than the competition. There’s totally improvement to be had, but most people do not use a device for longer than a decade anyway. If it can comfortably hit (and often exceed) that timeframe before support is fully revoked, then the average user will never experience it. To a major degree anyway.

I’ve said it before and will say it again: There are plenty of legitimate things Apple does to be pissed off at them about. Feel free to ask me if you want a few examples. I just don’t see how, compared to the rest of the market, this is one of them or how they’re so much worse to have to be called out, but the other guys either get a pass or no mention either.