Similar xp here

The best way to describe it is pure stupidity to a level that makes it funny (all quotes are paraphraseing and not word for word retelling)

Imagine someone thinking that responding to essentualy "the cia isnt all powerfull" with a failed cia program as if its a gatcha

Like im rather sure south vietnam doesnt exist, and its very much not because they took over north vietnam

I also got some absurd gems like "mass killing civilians is good military training" with the implication that it teaches more about fighting a war then actualy fighting

Edit: then i decided enough is enough and blocked the entire instance

I mean, rounded corners at least

Dont clean it for another 2 and you got yourself a dust blanket

Honestly did you even read the comment you are replying to?

Because to me certainly doesnt seem like it

Throwing more man into the meatgrinder that is war does not do much by itself

Yeah i was refering to the first gulf war

So first off

The main reason why i mentioned heavy weapons specificly despite ny innitial comment was because russia knows soviet equipment quite well

All of ukraines tanks, airdefence, fighters, attackers, counterbattery

Most of ukraines equipment was extremely well known by russia, what wasnt was in small numbers or lighter equipment

who was ukraine fighting since 2014?

As per mister putin "Зачем? Когда мы вынуждены, хочу подчеркнуть, вынуждены были защищать русскоязычное население на Донбассе, вынуждены были отреагировать на стремления людей, живущих в Крыму, вернуться в состав Российской Федерации"

Quick translation "Why? When we were forced—I want to emphasize, forced—to protect the Russian-speaking population in Donbas, forced to respond to the aspirations of people living in Crimea to return to the Russian Federation."

So an insurgancy (or freedom fighters, doesnt make much of a diffrence here) supported by the russian goverment

you’re talking as if they were already in a protracted war or some shit. after the maidan coup

Dealing with an insurgency right after a coup

Im fairly certain that falls into the "some shit" category

More relevant to this is written later

ukraine started receiving cia training and money. so if anything they should have been better prepared.

CIA training? As in the central intelligence agency? They are an intel agency, not military advisors. And neither can do magic (like makeing soviet era leftover equipment to be anything else)

Money by itself doesnt do much, corruption is a thing and what money is the easiest to steal other then the one that officialy doesnt exist

For an example of how well cia training and money helps look at afganistan

the ethnic cleansing in the oblasts were the military training they needed in order to achieve this, it made them stronger, not weaker.

Really?

Not even claiming its fighting an insurgency but specificly "ethnic cleansing"?

I call bs

in 2022 ukraine was way better positioned for a war than in 2014.

Just how low of a bar that is was a big reason i mentioned ukraine in the first place

90s and early 00s were dealing with the soviet collapse for the eastern block

And then a horrific military situation and not exactly good economic situation, a coup, insurgancy and part of the country being invaded being placed ontop

PanArab@lemmy.ml didnt talk about wether iraq was in a better position a decade prior but rather things that effected their position at the start of the war

on top of this, it’s more beneficial for russia to keep a protracted war with the us puppet state since this is what has been depleting us ammo and gear, which has been very beneficial for palestine, iran and yemen.

1.What does this have to do with the 2022 invasion? (And thus earlier comments)

2.This war has had significant effects on russia, at the very least loss of trust due to russias failure to defend its fellow CSTO member Armenia in 2023

3.Ukraine isnt useing much of ammunition for americas systems

America is with its inefficensy

4.Russia has done the exact oposite it has given europe and america the perfect testing ground to develop counters and counterparts to what hamas, the houthis and iran are all use

Let alone rather clearly demonstrating why such systems should be developed

If it wasnt for russia then america and all of the middle east would be starting from scratch and/or heavly reliant on guess who? Israel (as they are one of the few that have had to defend against semi regular significantly sized rocket barrages)

And yet my comment stand true does it not?

Throwing more man into the meatgrinder that is war does not do much by itself

I have a better solution

Stop burning dyno juice

MAB

Mutually Assured Blockade

In 2022 ukraine was a country that had fought sense 2014, which has had significant chunck taken over by russia ,unlike iraq, ukraine didnt have the money from oil exporting

And ukraine wasnt given heavy weapons until well after the innitial attack was blunted, specificly because it was expected for ukraine to fall (also why it took soo long for ukraine to get western fighters, pilot training started during the war )

Just the blunting of the innitial attacks meant that russias goal of repeating what happened with crimea were a failure

On paper is on paper

It all depends on what they are both actualy made of

On paper iraq was a dangerus oponent which would surely cause significant casualties

Just as on paper ukraine was going to fold instantly